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Out of curiousity, does anyone know of small air conditioners that could be installed in the side of a computer to cool the inside? I hope to cool the whole system in this manner, along with the use of my 8 fans :)

Would the AC create too much condensation on the inside of the computer?

If anyone has any other ideas for cooling the system, please tell me, I am having problems with my video card ASUS V7700 Delux overheating at the moment. (not to mention that the fan is defective...I am waiting for a replacement)
 
You would have to dry the the air! AC inside will create hugh amounts of condensation, if ya can keep the business end of things outside that would help. Just have clean filtered dry air it will work. But the expense on a small enthusiast level would be too much.... Oh i see, me thinxs ya gunno duct from somewhere like home AC? ! lol. hey jerry riggin works for me...





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And review ya whole fan set up too, sometimes 2 many fans create more problems. AS far as ya card goes,back off to default on that, or go lower until your cooler is fixed.

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I used to have my case underneath a window ac unit and ran some standard dryer hose from the unit to the back of the case (not touching it, but blowing in at about 2 inches from it) and into the intake fan. Having the ac set to about 70F I would get my gig athlon @ 1300 down to about 22C at idle and in the low 30's under load.

I never noticed and condensation, but I didn't like the look of dryer hose on my wall, so I ditched it.

The whole case was very cool to the touch. I think you could get away with that.

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Not a bad idea but you may want to consider the space it will take up!
I personally have my case open both side and as much space as i can spare because of my watercoolign unit sit entirely in there! but I have 2 80mm fan blow on top of my waterblock and i have the air conditioner spray air over the fans and the rest of my cards
(The NIC, SOund and the rest of my card get hot like hell. I use blueorb on my cardex gf3 w/ bigger ramsink so it do the job i guess on my video side)
 
I'm using the same idea to cool my T-bird 1.2 running @ 1.4 I have a window AC unit behind my PC desks and have mounted a dryer hose on one side of the AC output grill and have the hose running to just in front of my intake fan on my box. Very cold air indeed! I am using only the stock HSF that came with the CPU and the thermal pad also, no paste.
The AC stays on low all the time and cools the room nicely as well as my PC's. The MBM program shows the temps @ around 20c at idle, mid 30's under normal, heavy working load with numerous apps open( i.e. Photoshop, Ultradev, Thumbsplus, outlook, and a couple dozen other apps running in the background) and at max cpu usage (100% for hours at a time) it hovers about 49c.
Even turning the AC off during the day, with no apps running , my system still hovers around 43 idle overclocked as it is. So, I guess I managed to get a fairly decent stock HSF and managed to install it correctly. But I sure do love to see that temp below 30c.... 🙂

The exhaust fan on the back of the case, not the PS exhaust, is even blowing very cool air out. So the whole innerds of the case must be getting a good chilling!

Question: Am I risking condensation problems with this set-up? Thanks for any input.

Regards.
Mark
 
the problem is when you power it all down the case and components are cooler than the air and then you get condensation....

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the condensation would occur within the air con unit on the cooling elements as the air heats up it can hold more water and would not cause condensation further on... a water block causes condensation as it is cooler than the air around it... a heat sink with cold air blowing on it would have the opposite effect...

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I never noticed any condensation, and I was always checking. my setup kept my idle cpu at 19C,,, believe it or not. And it was at 15C at one point. But I didn't like the look of a dryer hose running down my wall, so i scraped it.

Seeing all these high 50C and stable Athlons led me to believe that a silent running 35C athlon air cooled was well within spec, so I don't worry anymore

that's 1gig @ 1200 btw, used to run at 1350 and 1450, but I toned her down so when I am asking for more juice later I have some overclock room left over. LOL.

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Very wise, I ask myself sometimes why I need so much cpu...It is a game I suppose to test my limits...

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On condensation:

The air that the air conditioner is blowing out is already dry. The air conditioner itself sucks out most of the moisture, so you won't get any condensation on the inside of your computer so long as the air conditioner is running.

You may get condensation on the outside of your computer case as the warmer outside air hits the cool case, much like a cold glass of water will bead up if it is left to sit in the open. So long as it in on the outside it shouldn't matter too much.

If you have fans that are drawing in outside air, them you may ge condensation on the inside of your case as well. As long as all your fans are blowing air out and only the air conditioner is blowing air in, all should be fine.

The problem arises when you shut down the air conditioner. At that point the warm outside air can get into the cool case, and condensation will form. My suggestion is to:
A) run the air conditioner 24 hours
B) Power down the computer before shutting down the AC, and then wait a few hours before turning it back on, preferably with the fans still blowing. That will let the condensation that does form evaporate off.
C) Don't run the air conditioner too cold, or when there is high humidity.

Since most of your computers components are running hot, it is unlikely that condensation will form directly on them. It is more likely to form on the walls of your case and possibly on little-used components such as your floppy drive and CD-ROM. The problem will occur if condensation form on the inside of your case and then drips down on your motherboard/computer components.