News Alder Lake Non-K Overclocking Motherboards Are Rare, Expensive and DDR5 Only

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A forum post by HWBot lists all current Alder Lake motherboards that support BCLK overclocking with Intel's fully locked CPUs.

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[VforV]

There goes the dream of intel fanbois doing 12400f 5Ghz cheap builds. Such sadness...

 

[TerryLaze]

Take a breath, relax a little...
It has been just 3 months since AL launched and barely one month that the non-k CPUs launched, nobody expected this to become cheap in a week or two.

It took ryzen 5xxx more than 3 months just to reach (barely) the advertised boost clocks.

 

[artk2219]

I love it when people that I ignore still try to say something to me.


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I could not give a flying F about what all in my ignore list have to say. There is at least one reason (most likely more) why they are there, I told them the day that I blocked them. I'm not gonna repeat.

It's funny nonetheless. 🤣

I don't know what beef you two had, don't really care either, its a little irrelevant to the topic at hand. That being said, I'm curious if we'll ever see any non expensive boards with an external clock generator on them, I havent even though about an external clock in like 20 years, thats kind of a throw back. I still don't see why Intel locks their chips down as I doubt it really effects their bottom line or RMA quantities. I mean every desktop Ryzen comes unlocked and AMD still makes sales on the higher clocked units because most people just dont want to try their hand at overclocking or take the risk.

 

[TechLurker]

I'm not surprised this is limited to Premium, halo boards. It makes sense for mobo makers to mostly limit such bonus extras to their high-end options. They lose nothing if the end user ends up with a dud un-OC'able Non-K, or if Intel hard-shuts it down via a BIOS update, leaving end users with limited upgrade options. As well, they can blame the user for damage should OC'ing the generator also damage other components relying on that external clock gen.

 

[LolaGT]

Relax v, they never quoted you, you obviously have a much higher opinion of yourself than everyone else.

Also, Terry is correct, it is way too soon to lament this and I'd be shocked if at least a couple MB manufacturers don't try to exploit this little trick for the short pockets buyers.

 

[VforV]

I don't know what beef you two had, don't really care either, its a little irrelevant to the topic at hand. That being said, I'm curious if we'll ever see any non expensive boards with an external clock generator on them, I havent even though about an external clock in like 20 years, thats kind of a throw back. I still don't see why Intel locks their chips down as I doubt it really effects their bottom line or RMA quantities. I mean every desktop Ryzen comes unlocked and AMD still makes sales on the higher clocked units because most people just dont want to try their hand at overclocking or take the risk.

Because they're intel, it's how they think, more for them, less for you...

Relax v, they never quoted you, you obviously have a much higher opinion of yourself than everyone else.

Also, Terry is correct, it is way too soon to lament this and I'd be shocked if at least a couple MB manufacturers don't try to exploit this little trick for the short pockets buyers.

I wasn't lamenting, I was making fun of intel, like their fanbois made fun of AMD a million times. Noting more, yet I see some are upset about a simple joke. Funny.

Also for my opinion about myself, is that I can say both good things and bad things about someone, something or a company (like intel, that has great price / perf for the lower SKUs of AL vs Zen3, yet they still are a worse company in lots of ways - see both a positive and a negative, same for nvidia). Yet intel and nvidia fanbois are always in worship mode, never their beloved company is wrong.

That's the difference, I'm not a blind brainwashed fanboi, I see the good and the bad and admit it, even for AMD. Just because I prefer them, does not mean I like everything they do... I don't.
I don't like their too high prices on some products, their neglect of lower tier SKUs for CPUs, their low volume of supply for GPUs, the RX 6500 XT, etc.

Those on my ignore list are ALL like that, you cannot reason with them at all. That's the difference between me and them.

It's hard these days to have a backbone, a spine, to admit both right and wrong, to have a critical thinking, even about something you like. Most are either worshiping one or another company, or are plain shills, whichever the case.

 

[digitalgriffin]

I don't know what beef you two had, don't really care either, its a little irrelevant to the topic at hand. That being said, I'm curious if we'll ever see any non expensive boards with an external clock generator on them, I havent even though about an external clock in like 20 years, thats kind of a throw back. I still don't see why Intel locks their chips down as I doubt it really effects their bottom line or RMA quantities. I mean every desktop Ryzen comes unlocked and AMD still makes sales on the higher clocked units because most people just dont want to try their hand at overclocking or take the risk.

The forum has very specific rules about other forum members being attacked in negative ways. But Terry is anything but unbiased. He's about as unbiased as Moore of Moore's law is. (Which is to sarcastically say "Totally Biased.") Hence his post are designed to always put AMD in a bad light without balance.

But I will admit, despite me being an AMD fan, Intel is winning this round on terms of performance and value. Some would peg me as an AMD fanboi. But I pick value. And right now, Intel has value.

 

[VforV]

And right now, Intel has value.

Sure, but not for AM4 owners. Which are a lot of, myself included. So I actually don't care about intel's value much. My value was AMD, going from Ryzen 2600 to 3600 to 5600X on the same motherboard and with a possibility of upgrading to 5800X3D, if I want.

If I would make a new PC maybe I would chose AL now, but even then the better option would be to not make one anyway, I would just wait for Zen4 and Raptor Lake to decide and even so I still incline more towards AMD, because intel has to prove more good will to be trusted again.
They still do s^^t like still limiting OC on all motherboards except Z ones and we still don't know if the socket support will last more than 2 generations, which for both these things AMD is better and gives me more.

I'm glad for competition because it pushes AMD to do even better with Zen4, but I'm not convinced yet by intel, not even close.

 

[digitalgriffin]

Sure, but not for AM4 owners. Which are a lot of, myself included. So I actually don't care about intel's value much. My value was AMD, going from Ryzen 2600 to 3600 to 5600X on the same motherboard and with a possibility of upgrading to 5800X3D, if I want.

If I would make a new PC maybe I would chose AL now, but even then the better option would be to not make one anyway, I would just wait for Zen4 and Raptor Lake to decide and even so I still incline more towards AMD, because intel has to prove more good will to be trusted again.
They still do s^^t like still limiting OC on all motherboards except Z ones and we still don't know if the socket support will last more than 2 generations, which for both these things AMD is better and gives me more.

I'm glad for competition because it pushes AMD to do even better with Zen4, but I'm not convinced yet by intel, not even close.

That all depends on your use and application and the rest of your system config. But the resizable memory bar (SMB) and higher PCIe gen is limited to 500 series boards. If you need high throughput, it's kind of a moot point unless you are upgrading from something like a 2400g/3400g to a 5700g

 

[VforV]

That all depends on your use and application and the rest of your system config. But the resizable memory bar (SMB) and higher PCIe gen is limited to 500 series boards. If you need high throughput, it's kind of a moot point unless you are upgrading from something like a 2400g/3400g to a 5700g

PCIe 4.0 yes, I don't have, but I don't need it. By the time I'll actually need it I'll upgrade again.

But SAM, I have it on my B450M (see the signature) with the latest BIOS updates and it's working as well as on 500 series MBs.

 

[digitalgriffin]

PCIe 4.0 yes, I don't have, but I don't need it. By the time I'll actually need it I'll upgrade again.

But SAM, I have it on my B450M (see the signature) with the latest BIOS updates and it's working as well as on 500 series MBs.

Brain fart, I knew is was S*M. I forgot they also retrofitted to the 400 series. Thanks for catching that. I need more coffee.