Question all in one Pumps , why on top of Chip?

[MeiGunner]

so maybe Someone can give me an Answer to this ...

if your trying to cool a chip .. why would you stick the Pump on top of the chip ..

like the water pump Creates heats ... Why not Just Stick it on the Side of the Radiator ?

 

[Gam3r01]

Pumps create very little heat, next to none, especially in comparison to the chip itself.
Adding the pump to the radiator would either: Make the radiator thicker, and limit compatibility, make the radiator longer, and limit compatibility, or reduce the fin area, reducing cooling performance.
Additionally, liquid cooling does not really operate under "heat points" like that, no matter where the pump is the heat will be dissipated. It wont make the processor run cooler. Hence why component order is very flexible in custom loops.

 

[USAFRet]

Stick WHAT on the side of the radiator?
The pump?

The spinning pump motor does not create that much heat.

 

[Karadjgne]

They do. EK, Swiftech, Fractal Design, any of the 'liquid cooling' systems use divorced pumps.

However, Asetek has a proprietory design patent that's basically as iron-clad as it gets, and it's strictly enforced, so when you want an aio, chances are 80%+ that you'll get an Asetek or modified by Asetek or with Asetek's approval, pump.

Having a pump/block combo is far cheaper to incorporate than divorced blocks and pumps, 1 item vs 2 items to manufacture, so in order to stay competitive and make any profit with other aios in that weight class, you need to be roughly the same on manufacturing costs. Which means an Asetek pump/block combo.

There are others, like CoolIt and Apaltek with similar designs, but again, to stay competitive with Asetek designs means a similar build approach.

And that's assuming that you assume that any of those aio vendors actually care one bit about the 1-2°C additional pump heat when every other vendor experiences the exact same rise in temps because they too are using the same stupid pump.

 

[MeiGunner]

yeah ,, i guess they wouldnt make taht Much heat , After watching Gamer nexis tear down some .. i guess having to Run power, and and all that Jazz .. it would just make more Sence to put it ontop of the Cpu Block .. i did find 2 that have it on Rad like this MLZ-H92M-A26PK-R1 coolermaster (https://www.newegg.com/cooler-master-liquid-cooling-system/p/N82E16835103230?Item=N82E16835103230) .. ... (fyi i was Picture a Water Reservoir with pump in it ..., Mounted on the side of a Radiator kinda .Solution .. but not Sticking it in the middle , lol .. maybe inSide the Cavities of the Radiator, like the Coolermaster Maker 92 , but that Doesnt Give you a vary Big pump / Fins /Turbine ) but i guess with these Aio pumps are not So bad ... i just Figured , your Trying to REmove the heat, not add.. but The pump is going to be Adding Heat to the sytem no matter Where you stick it ... ( i Just Grew up in votech , and Heat is Bad for Motors, and seeing them stick a Pump in a hot Location always Bugged me , since Moving parts don't like heat . and causes a higher chance of failure, i would Think of Putting the pump After the Raditor. Thanks for all the Feedback , And look forward to Reading through the Forms Since i just Made this Acct yesterday
God Bless

 

[MeiGunner]

They do. EK, Swiftech, Fractal Design, any of the 'liquid cooling' systems use divorced pumps.

However, Asetek has a proprietory design patent that's basically as iron-clad as it gets, and it's strictly enforced, so when you want an aio, chances are 80%+ that you'll get an Asetek or modified by Asetek or with Asetek's approval, pump.

Having a pump/block combo is far cheaper to incorporate than divorced blocks and pumps, 1 item vs 2 items to manufacture, so in order to stay competitive and make any profit with other aios in that weight class, you need to be roughly the same on manufacturing costs. Which means an Asetek pump/block combo.

There are others, like CoolIt and Apaltek with similar designs, but again, to stay competitive with Asetek designs means a similar build approach.

And that's assuming that you assume that any of those aio vendors actually care one bit about the 1-2°C additional pump heat when every other vendor experiences the exact same rise in temps because they too are using the same stupid pump.

Whats a Divorced pump? , is that like a Free floating Pump ,, where it uses permanent Magnets to Keep it Sealed inside the system ? i have been watching Gamers Nexus , and it seems like a lot of Aio Cooling uses Pumps like that
:-D

 

[MeiGunner]

yeah ,, i guess they wouldnt make that Much heat , After watching Gamer nexus tear down some .. i guess having to Run power, and and all that Jazz .. it would just make more Sence to put it ontop of the Cpu Block .. i did find 2 that have it on Rad like this MLZ-H92M-A26PK-R1 coolermaster (https://www.newegg.com/cooler-master-liquid-cooling-system/p/N82E16835103230?Item=N82E16835103230) .. ... (fyi i was Picture a Water Reservoir with pump in it ..., Mounted on the side of a Radiator kinda .Solution .. but not Sticking it in the middle , lol

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTXYKaf949Y&ab_channel=GamersNexus
.. maybe inside the Cavities of the Radiator, like the Coolermaster Maker 92 , but that Doesnt Give you much space for Big pump / Fins /Turbine but i guess with these Aio pumps,thay are not So bad ... i just Figured , your going to Trying REmove the heat, not adding.. but The pump is going to be Adding Heat to the sytem no matter Where you stick it ... ( i Just Grew up in votech , and Heat is Bad for Motors, and seeing them stick a Pump in a hot Location always Bugged me , since Moving parts don't like heat . and causes a higher chance of failure, i would Think of Putting the pump After the Raditor. Thanks for all the Feedback , And look forward to Reading through the Forms Since i just Made this Acct yesterday
God Bless

 

[Colif]

i think divorced means the pumps are in the radiator.

its also hard to find examples of them
this does but it doesn't say it anywhere - https://storage-asset.msi.com/datasheet/liquid-cooling/global/MAG-CORELIQUID-240R.pdf
NZXT Kraken do as well.