News Alleged AMD RX 7500 prototype surfaces with 1,536 shaders and 6GB VRAM

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X user shares an alleged prototype of AMD's cancelled Radeon RX 7500 graphics card that appears to sport 1,536 shaders, 64 ROPS, and 6GB of onboard memory.

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[Pemalite]

Would have loved to have seen this drop.

I think the biggest thing missing in the GPU market right now is low-power, low-cost GPU's.

I have seen some SFF PC's that would have new-life breathed into them if I could upgrade the integrated graphics for a single-slot, half height GPU... And it's not just about gaming, it's about media encode/decode, GPU compute etc'.

Yes 6GB of Ram sucks, but for eSports games it would have been fine at 720P-1080P, it's a budget card, not a 1440P ultra spec card.

 

[usertests]

Yes 6GB of Ram sucks, but for eSports games it would have been fine at 720P-1080P, it's a budget card, not a 1440P ultra spec card.

AMD made the exact card we all want for SFF. It's the W7500:

https://www.amd.com/en/products/graphics/workstations/radeon-pro/w7500.html

AMD Radeon PRO W7500 Specs

AMD Navi 33, 1700 MHz, 1792 Cores, 112 TMUs, 64 ROPs, 8192 MB GDDR6, 1344 MHz, 128 bit

www.techpowerup.com

https://www.pcmag.com/reviews/amd-radeon-pro-w7500

Small cut down, the full 8 GB of VRAM, although slower VRAM and less bandwidth, single slot, and only a 70W TDP.

The catch is that it's a PRO card, costing $429 at launch, and prices have not slipped ($380+ on ebay, not something reasonable like $150). But AMD can 100% make a card like this out of Navi 33 or Navi 44 if they choose to.

 

[jlake3]

Would have loved to have seen this drop.

I think the biggest thing missing in the GPU market right now is low-power, low-cost GPU's.

I have seen some SFF PC's that would have new-life breathed into them if I could upgrade the integrated graphics for a single-slot, half height GPU... And it's not just about gaming, it's about media encode/decode, GPU compute etc'.

Yes 6GB of Ram sucks, but for eSports games it would have been fine at 720P-1080P, it's a budget card, not a 1440P ultra spec card.

I'm with you that a low-power, SFF GPU could be something neat and different in the market and would fill a niche... but from what I've seen of the online tech community over the last year or so, there's absolutely no way the reception to this would have been anything but horribly, horribly negative.

If it beat the 3050 6gb while costing less and made the A310/A380 absolutely irrelevant at their current prices, rather than celebrate the improvement in the budget/SFF space, it would get panned for not moving the needle enough. People would come out of the woodwork to one-up each other about how it should be named lower, have more VRAM, and cost less, all at the same time. AIBs wouldn't stick to single slot/half height/no power cable designs. Reviewers would compare it to a new build with a top-end APU and deem it a bad value by that metric, ignoring that I can't just drop one of those APUs into my cheap 8th-to-10th-gen Intel prebuilt.

And after all that bad PR, I'm not sure how many salvage yields they'd actually have that would work as a RX 7500 but not make the cut for a W7500 or RX 7600M/7600S.

 

[usertests]

People would come out of the woodwork to one-up each other about how it should be named lower, have more VRAM, and cost less, all at the same time.

All true, really. 8 GB would match the W7500 and give an easy win over the 3050 6GB. It should be named lower than the W7500 if it couldn't include 8 GB. 3050 6GB pricing is very high for what it is, so I would hope AMD could come in below it.

I think the big reviewers have the self-awareness to realize that a ~70-75W competitor to the 3050 6GB can and should exist, at the right price. The VRAM complaints are primarily about 8 GB cards above $300, and soon at $300 (5060 12GB is always looming over the 5060 8GB).

An 8 GB SFF card would be better than 6 GB, but if it was below $200, the complaints wouldn't be so bad because there are very few competitors to compare it to: the 3050 6GB and A380 also have 6 GB, some expensive professional cards have more, and then you get into older/weaker cards, often with 4 GB.

I assume RX 7300/7500 is a no go at this point, but hopefully the RX 9040 can become real.

AIBs wouldn't stick to single slot/half height/no power cable designs.

I don't think it is common for 75W tier GPUs to be supplied with additional power. I didn't notice that for the 3050 6GB, and it might be a policy enforced by AMD/Nvidia/Intel when they make these cards. The big problem I've seen from AMD is that they pump up the clocks and raise TDP on the cheap junk like the 6500 XT to squeeze out a little more performance, depriving PCIe-only users of another option. It was only recently that the sub-75W RX 6500 apparently became a thing.

Since there are reports of the RTX 5050 using 130 Watts, and the 6500 XT used 107 Watts, I assume AMD would do the same with an RX 9050. Only the RX 9040 or below can save this niche.

I am worried that single slot/half height is harder to obtain than it should be. Particularly low profile/half height, which I believe is the more common constraint. I think I could do dual-slot in the case I'm looking at, but it needs to be low profile. Both single slot and low profile would make it more useful though.