News Alleged Price and TGP of RTX 4070 Revealed by Leak

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An alleged Nvidia slide reveals GeForce RTX 4070 MSRP and TGP.

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[Why_Me]

(Pending reviews of course) this card should be a decent one imo for those peeps looking to break into 1440P gaming.

 

[InvalidError]

(Pending reviews of course) this card should be a decent one imo for those peeps looking to break into 1440P gaming.

Plenty of people already do 1440p on much slower GPUs, just got to bump details down a peg or two from RT-Ultra-Nightmare, which still looks almost as good without the massively inflated performance and VRAM requirements.

 

[atomicWAR]

IF the 599 msrp is correct, the RTX 4070 will have ended up 50 dollars cheaper then I guessed it would cost, up to a 100 dollars cheaper than I was worried it could cost if I was wrong and still 100 dollars more expensive than it should actually be. At the end of the day I am not impressed BUT its more sane pricing compared to the 80/70 TI series cards sadly still leaving the 4090 feeling like the best bang for the buck this gen due to its large performance uplift to cost increase which is still just weird to me for a high end card to slot in like that.

Edit: As noted below in shear terms of cost per frame the RTX 4070 Ti does indeed hold the "best bang for buck" title among the available 4000 series cards. By saying feeling the 4090 has better bang for the buck I meant for that 100 dollars more on each you get 3090->4090 = 65% performance increase VS 3070 Ti-> 4070 Ti = 50% performance increase. Thus 100 dollars more for 65% increase feels more worth it compared to 100 dollars more for 50%. But the steep performance drop off for Nvidia cards as you go down the stack does predate the 4000 series by a fair number of generations.

 

[KyaraM]

IF the 599 msrp is correct, the RTX 4070 will have ended up 50 dollars cheaper then I guessed it would cost, up to a 100 dollars cheaper than I was worried it could cost if I was wrong and still 100 dollars more expensive than it should actually be. At the end of the day I am not impressed BUT its more sane pricing compared to the 80/70 TI series cards sadly still leaving the 4090 feeling like the best bang for the buck this gen which is still just weird to me for a high end card to slot in like that.

It might feel that way, but actually the 4070Ti leads in performance/dollar and comes close enough in performance/watt while having the overall lowest consumption of all the frevious gen cards plus all relevant last gen cards, and coming very close to the other Ada cards:
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/palit-geforce-rtx-4070-ti-gamingpro-oc/33.html

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/palit-geforce-rtx-4070-ti-gamingpro-oc/40.html

So while it might feel like the 4090 has the better price/performance, that isn't actually correct. Especially since more and more 4070Ti crop up for below MSRP here where I live. The 4070 will most likely be even better price/performance and possibly better performance/watt as well. But we will have to wait for the 3rd party testing to be sure.

 

[thisisaname]

IF the 599 msrp is correct, the RTX 4070 will have ended up 50 dollars cheaper then I guessed it would cost, up to a 100 dollars cheaper than I was worried it could cost if I was wrong and still 100 dollars more expensive than it should actually be. At the end of the day I am not impressed BUT its more sane pricing compared to the 80/70 TI series cards sadly still leaving the 4090 feeling like the best bang for the buck this gen which is still just weird to me for a high end card to slot in like that.

Even if the MSRP is $599 I bet most cards are going to be priced higher than that.

 

[Ar558]

A MSRP of $599 will make the Ti irrelevant. I don't believe this number till I see it, $699 makes much more sense given nVidia's strategy.

 

[atomicWAR]

It might feel that way, but actually the 4070Ti leads in performance/dollar ....

I am aware thus why I said feels like and not is (ie overall performance uplift compared to cost increase for each 65% vs 50% for 100 US) though I could have been more clear on my why I will edit my post... and until the RTX 4070Ti dropped the 4090 did indeed have a better price peformance compared to the 4080 which was insane. Something I have not seen happen before in a flagship card. And despite beating the 4090 in bang for buck...the 4070Ti is still woefully overpriced, which was generally my point for all Nvidia GPUs this gen. Not to mention the performance of both the 4080 and 4070 Ti are also underpowered by about 10-15% each. IMHO at least...All in all I have been less than satisfied with this gen. But I also think Nvidia and AMD will course correct in time with prices which could change the conversation considerably.

 

[oofdragon]

Did any time in history the 70 series not beat it's 80Ti predecessor?

 

[Giroro]

If this is true, then I definitely won't buy it.

What's with Nvidia forcing every single product into the "no man's land" pricing between $500 and their halo product?

If you have $600 for something as completely unnecessary as "slightly prettier" gaming graphics (but only when viewed on a high end monitor), then you have $1200. If you have $1200, then price is no object.

If you want to sell us absurdly overpriced GPUs, then leather granddaddy should at least even pretend to give us a reason. Where are the games?
Everybody has already figured out that you can't make money with these GPUs. Streaming is rigged and mining is dead, so what does GPU performance even matter, at this point?

 

[KyaraM]

I am aware thus why I said feels like and not is (ie overall performance uplift compared to cost increase for each 65% vs 50% for 100 US) though I could have been more clear on my why I will edit my post... and until the RTX 4070Ti dropped the 4090 did indeed have a better price peformance compared to the 4080 which was insane. Something I have not seen happen before in a flagship card. And despite beating the 4090 in bang for buck...the 4070Ti is still woefully overpriced, which was generally my point for all Nvidia GPUs this gen. Not to mention the performance of both the 4080 and 4070 Ti are also underpowered by about 10-15% each. IMHO at least...All in all I have been less than satisfied with this gen. But I also think Nvidia and AMD will course correct in time with prices which could change the conversation considerably.

I won't say anything about it being overpriced or anything. I don't think a 3090/3090Ti level card is underpowered in any way, though, especially not for 800 USD new. However, the overpriced argument also applies to all AMD cards no matter what certain people might claim.

Did any time in history the 70 series not beat it's 80Ti predecessor?

The 2070 didn't even get close to beating the 1080Ti. It barely beat the regular 1080 by a single digit percentage.

Nvidia GeForce RTX 2070 Review

Today we have our day-one GeForce RTX 2070 review for you and I suspect like most other publications, we were seriously under the pump for this one....

www.techspot.com

From what I dug up online, the 1070 was less than 5% better than the 980Ti and the 3070 again didn't quite reach the 2080Ti. So yes, plenty of time.

If this is true, then I definitely won't buy it.

What's with Nvidia forcing every single product into the "no man's land" pricing between $500 and their halo product?

If you have $600 for something as completely unnecessary as "slightly prettier" gaming graphics (but only when viewed on a high end monitor), then you have $1200. If you have $1200, then price is no object.

If you want to sell us absurdly overpriced GPUs, then leather granddaddy should at least even pretend to give us a reason. Where are the games?
Everybody has already figured out that you can't make money with these GPUs. Streaming is rigged and mining is dead, so what does GPU performance even matter, at this point?

Your argument makes no sense. Someone willing or able to pay 800 USD might not be able or willing to 900, 1000, or especially 1200. That is utter bs. Also, with the current trend, with that stance you will never buy a GPU again, be it Nvidia or AMD. Who, I want to point out, is just as bad with their pricing. Biiiiiig surprise (not).

 

[Friesiansam]

'Ere we go again, alleged information based on a leak of an unverified image, from an unknown source.

Come back with a real story, when you have some verified, official information.

 

[DSzymborski]

Did any time in history the 70 series not beat it's 80Ti predecessor?

All the times?

The 3070/2080 Ti, the 2070/1080 Ti, the 1070/980 Ti and the 970/780 Ti pairs were all roughly in the same tier, performance-wise. One or the other appears to have an edge in the matchups, but the 70 series didn't clearly beat the 80 Ti predecessor at any time.

Given that the 4070 Ti trades blows with a 3090, it's quite possible that the 4070 ends up performing better than usual versus the previous generation's 80 Ti.

 

[cyrusfox]

Who is buying all these cards? If the market will bear the price and they can move inventory good on Team Green(maybe why this is rumored to be $100 cheaper, understand why EVGA left, sounds like Nvidia is pushing negative margins on partners).

The sub $400 market is ripe for disruption, all you have is old gen cards vs Arc for awhile longer.

 

[oofdragon]

All the times?

The 3070/2080 Ti, the 2070/1080 Ti, the 1070/980 Ti and the 970/780 Ti pairs were all roughly in the same tier, performance-wise. One or the other appears to have an edge in the matchups, but the 70 series didn't clearly beat the 80 Ti predecessor at any time

All the times?

The 3070/2080 Ti, the 2070/1080 Ti, the 1070/980 Ti and the 970/780 Ti pairs were all roughly in the same tier, performance-wise. One or the other appears to have an edge in the matchups, but the 70 series didn't clearly beat the 80 Ti predecessor at any time.

Given that the 4070 Ti trades blows with a 3090, it's quite possible that the 4070 ends up performing better than usual versus the previous generation's 80 Ti.

Hum don't know what you are talking about... the 70 series allways performed better than the 80ti, just check time spy score or a game benchmark like the Witcher 3 at Guru3D. The only time it did not was the 2070 vs the 1080ti, but if you were alive back then you know the 2070/2080 were bashed for it's clearly subpar performance, hence just a while later it was replaced by the 2070S which bested the 1080ti for the same launch price of the 2070. The 2070S was what the 2070 should have been at launch, every reviewer agreed so.

If the 4070 trade blows with the 3080Ti that's great, I don't know if that's what's gonna happen though.. there are talks of it performing similarly to the 3070Ti which is REALLY lame for $600