ALRIGHT!!! Finally! This is the final build. Please advise!!

[replicat0r]

Ok after makin 2 other thread. and spend bout 7 hours looks at stuff... i have compiled a final list of parts( mainly based on MykC's build.. THX!!)

Once again, i wanna be able to using this system for a long time(6yr+)
this rig is mainly for gaming(FPS,rts,rpg, etc) + HD multimedia + multitasking(gotta be fast)
i will prolly get a 22 or 24inch monitor with it


heres wut i got

COOLER MASTER RC-690-KKN1-GP Black SECC/ ABS ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail- $103
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119137


GIGABYTE GA-MA78GM-US2H AM2+/AM2 AMD 780G HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail-$99
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128379

SAPPHIRE 100259-1GL Radeon HD 4870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail- $249
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102801


CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply - Retail-$119
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139005


G.SKILL PI Black 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-6400CL4D-4GBPI-B - Retail -$55
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231209


COMBO: $196
AMD Phenom II X3 720 2.8GHz Socket AM3 95W Triple-Core Black Processor Model HDZ720WFGIBOX - Retail
+
XIGMATEK HDT-S1283 120mm Rifle CPU Cooler - Retail
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.170961



LG 22X DVD±R DVD Burner Black SATA Model GH22NS30 - OEM-$31
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136152CVF


Koutech IO-RCM620 USB 2.0 3.5"/5.25" Card Reader - Retail -$21 <--- is this a good card reader?
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820162016

Total comes to $1,072.19 With shippin n taxes.

I live in canada.. so stuff are more expensive at newegg.ca



Please help me with the following questions...

1. Can i Overclock this?
2. Will i be able to play demanding games like crysis at max(using it as a benchmark)
3. is everything compatible with each other, i dont wanna run into freezing at POST, or having BSOD with windows, etc cause i donno how to fix it..
4. When windows 7 comes out. will it be compatible?
5.wuts the best system to use with this? vista or xp?

Thx to everyone who helped me with this.

if everything is good, then im gonna go ahead and order it.

 

[Helloworld_98]

1. Yes
2. Most of them inc crysis, just maybe not FSX at max because of only 3 core's.
3. Should be, you'll probably want a 790 mobo though even if it costs an extra $80 or so.

 

[replicat0r]

1. Yes
2. Most of them inc crysis, just maybe not FSX at max because of only 3 core's.
3. Should be, you'll probably want a 790 mobo though even if it costs an extra $80 or so.

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i thought the quad core is only slightly faster then trip, and i get alot better performance with that decent gfx card i got.

daaaaaaaamnit

any other ideas on mobo?

 

[xthekidx]

Looks pretty good, but you can go cheaper on the PSU
1. yes
2. yes
3. yes
4. yes
5. Vista

 

[xthekidx]

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i thought the quad core is only slightly faster then trip, and i get alot better performance with that decent gfx card i got.

daaaaaaaamnit

any other ideas on mobo?

I don't think you need a quad, especially if you OC it should handle just about everything. The mobo is good for the price.

 

[replicat0r]

Looks pretty good, but you can go cheaper on the PSU
1. yes
2. yes
3. yes
4. yes
5. Vista

i had the impression that psu is very important and i shouldnt go cheap on it.cause if it does then it takes everything with it.

and also. my freind mentioned somethin bout monitors... digital input, wat the hell is that and why does it matter on a monitor.

wut kind of monitor should i get with this rig

 

[kubes]

What my answers are:
1) Yes you'll be able to do a low-mid overclock with this rig with the current setup.
2) No you will not be able to play crysis at max settings at 2500x1600 settings. Maybe more like 1600x1200. In general though you'll be able to play some of the most demanding games at ther max settings with a screen resolution of 1600x1200 or less. Above this and you might start experince big frame rate drops.
3)Yes everything looks to be comptable. I do question one thing though. Are you sure you want a micro Motherboard and not a full size board?
4)Yes
5)my vote is vista. This will also give you an easier pathway to upgrade to windows 7 when it goes retail.

 

[replicat0r]

What my answers are:
1) Yes you'll be able to do a low-mid overclock with this rig with the current setup.
2) No you will not be able to play crysis at max settings at 2500x1600 settings. Maybe more like 1600x1200. In general though you'll be able to play some of the most demanding games at ther max settings with a screen resolution of 1600x1200 or less. Above this and you might start experince big frame rate drops.
3)Yes everything looks to be comptable. I do question one thing though. Are you sure you want a micro Motherboard and not a full size board?
4)Yes
5)my vote is vista. This will also give you an easier pathway to upgrade to windows 7 when it goes retail.

i dont know wut im doing. Mykc recommanded the 780.i dont know any better, wut do u think is a good full sized board?

can u define low-mid overclock
wuts the diff btw 2500x1600 and 1600x1200 visually, will i notice a signifcant difference

 

[bmuell]

Why are you getting a mATX board? Spend $10 on this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128387

 

[xthekidx]

Why are you getting a mATX board? Spend $10 on this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128387

He's in canada. I think the mATX is fine since he probably won't need the extra slot for xfire...although if you want to add a bunch of other stuff like wireless card and tv tuner then maybe.

 

[kubes]

The reason why i said a low-mid overclock is because of your ram. Its only 800mhz. which is very sufficent(i'm still going to say stay with this speed). To do a very high end overclock however you want to be in teh 1066mhz+ range. You might want to do a little bit of reading on it. Try googling "memory speed and overclock"

This is a good article to first read about screen resolution:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Display_resolution

After you have read that article this might make some more sense. Since there are more pixels that means your graphics card has to do more work rendering each frame. This in return causes a heavier load for your graphics card to keep up with.

 

[bmuell]

He's in canada. I think the mATX is fine since he probably won't need the extra slot for xfire...although if you want to add a bunch of other stuff like wireless card and tv tuner then maybe.

Oh... how about this then? http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138106

 

[aevm]

If you buy a 24" monitor then I strongly recommend an upgrade to the MB and PSU.

GIGABYTE GA-MA790X-UD4P AM3/AM2+/AM2 AMD 790X ATX $145
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128387

Corsair 750TX $154 - US$20 rebate
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139006

That way you can add a second HD 4870 1GB later and play almost anything at 60fps. With a single card you will get decent performance at 1920x1200, mind you, but not in all games.

 

[aevm]

Why are you getting a mATX board? Spend $10 on this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128387

LOL, you had already recommended the same board, but I didn't know yet.

@OP: try www.memoryexpress.com and www.ncix.com too, see if you can get better prices there.

 

[bmuell]

Oh so it does exist on the CA site. Ha, couldn't find it when I tried to correct myself.

 

[replicat0r]

The reason why i said a low-mid overclock is because of your ram. Its only 800mhz. which is very sufficent(i'm still going to say stay with this speed). To do a very high end overclock however you want to be in teh 1066mhz+ range. You might want to do a little bit of reading on it. Try googling "memory speed and overclock"

This is a good article to first read about screen resolution:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Display_resolution

After you have read that article this might make some more sense. Since there are more pixels that means your graphics card has to do more work rendering each frame. This in return causes a heavier load for your graphics card to keep up with.

so is it worth it to get better ram? i just dont wanna be my pc to be REALLY out of date in like 6yrs...

If you buy a 24" monitor then I strongly recommend an upgrade to the MB and PSU.

GIGABYTE GA-MA790X-UD4P AM3/AM2+/AM2 AMD 790X ATX $145
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128387

Corsair 750TX $154 - US$20 rebate
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139006

That way you can add a second HD 4870 1GB later and play almost anything at 60fps. With a single card you will get decent performance at 1920x1200, mind you, but not in all games.

seems that mobo is superior then the micro currently. more slots, ports etc...


edit: someone on the review said that the hyper transport speed on that mobo is 2000mh vs 2600 on the other am2 board... i tried to look at wikipedia but i couldnt understand wut the hell it was talkin about...

also, i thought the 790GX board are superior?

can someone explain that in plain english plz?

 

[MykC]

I actually really like that Gigabyte board http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128387 $145, didn't see that.

 

[MykC]

The difference between a 790X and 790GX is that the 790X has no onboard video, thats it.

 

[replicat0r]

The difference between a 790X and 790GX is that the 790X has no onboard video, thats it.

i see... so dont really need the GX since im gettin a $250 gfx card -_-

how bout hyper transport, wut is that?

 

[replicat0r]

AEYRFHAOEF(PAEOHT#AEORHP@HRE@PIUGE~!~~~~~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGHHHHHHHHHHHHH

with the upgraded parts(mobo+ psu)

it comes out to be $1,158.84

shipping and handling cost almost $200 bucks!!!! WTF?!

 

[aevm]

This article on HT seems friendlier than the one on wikipedia:
http://icrontic.com/articles/amd_hypertransport_technology_explained

Mind you, it's still a pretty tough read

 

[aevm]

AEYRFHAOEF(PAEOHT#AEORHP@HRE@PIUGE~!~~~~~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGHHHHHHHHHHHHH

with the upgraded parts(mobo+ psu)

it comes out to be $1,158.84

shipping and handling cost almost $200 bucks!!!! WTF?!

Ouch...

I'm guessing shipping the case is very expensive, since it's big and heavy. Maybe you can buy a case locally and save some cash.

NCIX used to have a system where you pay $150 and get some membership that included free shipping and some extra insurance. See if they still have it. They match prices too AFAIK.

 

[replicat0r]

Ouch...

I'm guessing shipping the case is very expensive, since it's big and heavy. Maybe you can buy a case locally and save some cash.

NCIX used to have a system where you pay $150 and get some membership that included free shipping and some extra insurance. See if they still have it. They match prices too AFAIK.

im gonna buy the case at direct canada... they have freeshipping over $300.. so i gotta put some parts over there..

 

[drakleon84]

From looking at the build in the first post still, I'd say def go up a step in your mobo (just to about a $120 one), spend a few extra dollars for an Phenom 2 X4 Black Edition (only about $20-30 more), and spend an extra $20-30 on a Sapphire 4850 X2 2GB. I'd say you'd have a pretty sweet system with those changs.

 

[replicat0r]

From looking at the build in the first post still, I'd say def go up a step in your mobo (just to about a $120 one), spend a few extra dollars for an Phenom 2 X4 Black Edition (only about $20-30 more), and spend an extra $20-30 on a Sapphire 4850 X2 2GB. I'd say you'd have a pretty sweet system with those changs.

where do u see a phenom 2 x4 for $30 more?

and where is that sapphire 2g for $30 more?

plz point it to me.

i am in canada.


the cheapest phenom II 940 was on newegg.ca

which was $276, which doesnt include a cooling unit. with a coolin unit it be about 320

rite now i have a trip core 720 + coolin unit for 200....