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I want this CPU. I just don't know what braod to get! So much to choose from. This system will mainly be used for gaming! I also have a couple of questions to ask:

1. Does XP Pro support this and do I need to do anything when I install it?

2. What mobo to get for this?

3. When I hear dual I figure (2) CPU's? AM I right? Dont really understand this. I cant get an AMD cheaper then Intel. And plaus they run cooler.

Looking for something that will last and can upgrade later down the road. If you need to know the other compoents jsut let me know and I will post.

Thanks

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1. Yes, Windows XP Pro supports it fine, as well as any other AMD or Intel chip.
2. Depends on graphics card. Do you already have one? If you are considering the FX-57 you probably aren't concerned for cash. Getting a 7800GT would be good. You could get two of them for SLI as well. I would recommend a DFI either Infinity or Lanparty series board.
3. Dual cores are two CPU's built into one chip. Getting a dual core X2 would probably be a better value than an FX-57.

To give good suggestions, we really need to know what parts you already have, and what your budget is.
 

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I'm really going to rebuild a new system. As money goes I got $3000.00 give or take. More on the money side if I need it.

Case
Lian Li V COOL PC-V1000B Black Aluminum ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail

CPU
Althon 64 FX-57

Mobo
Have no clue! (want something that I can upgrade down the road!)

Hard Drive
I wanted Raptor 10000rpm but I hear it's not worth the money. Thats more on the server side use.

Video Card
Have a 9800 pro now. I want something new that can run BF2 and Planetside.

RAM
Want 2 gigs of RAM. Good ram. Know nothing about tweaking RAm or testing it to see if bad.

Sound Card
Creative Sound Blaster Audigy2 ZS Platinum 70SB035000003 8 (7.1) Channels 24-bit 192KHz PCI Interface Sound Card - Retail

Power Supply
I want something with lots of power to run what I get and then some. If I need it down the raod!

Cooling
Now I don't know enough about water cooling so I will stick with the fans. But I want to add fans and possiable a fan control. Want good fans nothing cheap.

I'm a big time gamer and like for my stuff to run good. Not into overclocking! I've never built my own PC but, know enough I think I can do it with a little help.

Anything else you need just let me know.

Thanks


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What monitor? At what res are you gaming?

1. You'd be better off with the FX57 than the dual core unless you do a LOT of other stuff while you're gaming.
2. With your budget I'd definitely throw in a Raptor as a primary HDD and then a good 300GB, 16MB cache HDD for storage. The Raptor is on sale right now at Newegg for $146 anyway...
3. Video card = 7800GTX or 1800XT. If you're gaming at high res with all of the eye candy, then you should consider SLI or Crossfire. Until you make that decision about vid cards we can't give you good advice on a mobo.
4. PSU: Go Quality on your budget - <A HREF="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817151025" target="_new">Seasonic 600W</A>.
5. Panaflo is always a good option for fans. Balance cooling with noise...Go with 120mm, but make sure that you're case accepts them.
6. Some good RAM <A HREF="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820227210" target="_new">Patriot 2x1GB PC3200 Platinum</A>. If you're not OCing, then you don't need anything more than this.


When are you going to do this build?

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and I've even got a big blood blister on my left middle finger from installing flooring today.

*note to self - move finger when it is in the way of the hammer*

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dhlucke

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Rugger is spot on as far as I'm concerned.

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About my note to self? :wink:

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i'd suggest the OCZ modstream series (or anything else that have this feature), the one where you can chose which output you want via special cables, you can't beleive how much unused space power connrectors and wires comping out of the PSU takes.....

AMD A64 3200+Venice @2.65GHZ
DFI Lanparty UT NF4 Ultra-D
OCZ 2x512mb EL Gold VX PC3200 ram 2-2-2-8
evga eGeforce 6800GT 256mb GDDR3 ram
Enermax 485W PSU
Bios 6/23
Windows XP SP2
 

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Thanks guys! I still think I want the FX-57 cpu. Can't find the mobo on the net ur talking about. So if you could please post a link for me would be great. Thanks

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I believe these are what wusy was suggesting:

<A HREF="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813123246" target="_new">EPoX 9NPA+ SLi</A>
<A HREF="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813136151" target="_new">DFI LANParty nF4 SLI-DR</A>
<A HREF="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813127207" target="_new">Abit AN8 SLi</A>
 

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if money is no issue then go with x2 4800+ and like 2GB Corsair 7800GTX... you'll have one killer setup.... asus a8n SLI premium seems to be a good choiced board.

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Lancer was talking about a PSU.

Agree with Wusy on 9NPA+ SLI or the Abit AN8 SLI.

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Well now I have only $2000.00 to spend that my wife found out about me building a new PC! L0L!! Thats all part of bening married and also I'm going to be a DADDY!!!!! So I just want something good that will last for like 3 years. But I know that wont happen in this world. A PC is like a car when u buy it. There's a better won as soon as you drive it of the lot.

Thanks Again

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dhlucke

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Wusy is a cheap skate. He recommended that I save a penny by not buying at iTunes but buy at some other place instead for 98 cents a song.

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Well here is what I'm thinking off getting! So Tell me what yall think!!

Case
Lian Li V COOL PC-V1000B Black Aluminum ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

CPU
Althon 64 x2 4800+

Mobo
ABIT AN8 SLI Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 SLI ATX AMD Motherboard

RAM
OCZ 2GB (2 x 1GB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM Unbuffered DDR 400 (PC 3200) Dual Channel Platinum System Memory

Hard Drive
Western Digital Raptor WD740GD 74GB 10,000 RPM 8MB Cache Serial ATA150 Hard Drive

Video Card
PNY VCG7800XXWB Geforce 7800GTX 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 VIVO PCI Express x16 Video Card

Sound Card
Creative Sound Blaster Audigy2 ZS Platinum 70SB035000003 8 (7.1) Channels 24-bit 192KHz PCI Interface Sound Card

Power Supply
SeaSonic S12-600 ATX12V 600W Power Supply 100 - 240V UL, CE, CB, FCC

Monitor
I have a 19" LCD Viewsonic VA720 (Not sure if that any good for gaming...)

I think that would be a good gaming system!! What yall think?

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RichPLS

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In fact I'll add ASUS A8N-SLI Premium on my recommendation list
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Get the <A HREF="http://www.directron.com/201tblk.html" target="_new">Super-Flower SF-201T</A> case and use the money you save (~$130) to get a good 250-300GB HDD for storage. What's your total so far?

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Ive seen some suggestions on a PSU but as usual it seems to have taken a back seat in this conversation. In any system but especially one that will be as nice as the one your building, the PSU will make or BREAK your system. It is one of if not the most critical component that makes up a computer. IMO there are many more low quality PSUs on the market than high quality. At this point I would first determine which PSU to purchase and then build my system around it.

ASUS P5WD2 Premium
Intel 3.73 EE @ 5.6Ghz
XMS2 DDR2 @ 1180Mhz

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<pre>Did you look at the PSU that he has listed? I recommended it earlier - maybe in another thread.</pre><p>
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If this is purely a gaming rig, I'd recommend a good single core CPU over the any dual-core. So that would probably mean an FX line processor if you have the budget for the 4800+.

Next is you over-clock considerations. If you don't want to overclock, then you're fine with what you're getting. If you do want to over-clock things slightly, and save a little money to, then I'd say go with the 4400+ X2, or a similar single-core CPU (other's hear can give good recomendations). With the 4400, a modest OC from a standard 200MHz bus to 220MHz will bring the 4400 to the same clockspeed as the 4800, and you'll have spent half as much. And with that case, cooling should be a problem, and the RAM should handle it as well. That'll leave you some budget to get a second, larger HDD in there, or 80% of the way to a second 7800GTX.

Speaking of your vid-card, I'd recommend BFG or eVGA over PNY. BFG comes factory overclocked for slightly better performance, and both BFG and eVGA offer better warranties than PNY (I'm pretty sure lifetime, compared to 1 or 3 years for PNY).

Lastly, you're getting a 7800GTX card. This means that you should want to run your games at 1600x1200 resolution. Try to find a monitor that does that (CRT is actually your best bet here, as I don't think you'll find a fast enough UXGA LCD so ghosting won't be a problem, especially within a reasonable price).

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Sorry, I only got through the first few replys.

ASUS P5WD2 Premium
Intel 3.73 EE @ 5.6Ghz
XMS2 DDR2 @ 1180Mhz

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Well with the specs I posted last night I'm at $2352.00 with no monitor. I posted a PSU that I want. Is that one not good enough? I posted the monitor I have (ViewSonic VA720) So I don't think I can use that one. Also what do u look for when buy a monitor besides response time?

Thanks

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