Question Am I getting the correct PC performances?

Feb 1, 2024
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Hey guys I have a question I hope someone can help me out with.

First of all, my rig is pretty old and when I bought it it was still then considered to not be high tier, I get that. Let me tell you what it is first

Ryzen 3 1200 3.1 ghz
16GB 3200mhz DDR4
GTX1060 3GB

While I understand that this setup should struggle with modern games, the confusion is because of the same returning problem I have. While in most games, the FPS is actually pretty good and very playable on various settings, the issue that I have 90% of the time when I have problems running a game is the stutter/choppiness/lag/freezing whenever something of action happens, and in some cases me just turning my head quickly. For example, Cyberpunk 2077 fps-wise runs at a playable 45fps until I start looking around and it just starts to become a slideshow. Not like it has low fps it's just struggling to run the game. The same happened with Kingdom Come, fps was pretty legit but everytime something happens the lag starts and it becomes unplayable. Kingdom Come is from 2018, which I would expect to be able to play tbh. Changing settings barely does anyhting, which is also weird. I get the same results on high as I do on low.

I actually had the setup with 8GB ram for a long time, but recently after yet again having the same issues with Ready or Not and the Tekken 8 demo, I decided to upgrade ram to 16GB. I thought since the FPS is always fine and the CPU isn't THAT bad maybe I'm being bottlenecked by the ram. But I see no difference at all. Even with Kingdom Come I don't even know how I managed to beat the game a few years back it seems to run worse now lol.

The thing is, I see people on youtueb with the same hardware but playing their games really well.

Can anyone share their thoughts about this? I'm not in the capability of buying a new PC at this time (not at a settled location rn)
 

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Actually find myself a bit surprised that the 1200 would run with the RAM @ 3200. The first gen Ryzen were pretty (in)famous for only wanting 2133 or 2400 speed RAM.

Without knowing more about what you have running in the background and so forth it is hard to suggest what 'could' be wrong and in particular whether you have realistic expectations of the equipment. The 1060 3GB card is going to struggle a lot nowadays simply because of the lack of VRAM. Even without that consideration, it is a low settings might get 60 FPS type card. The R3 1200 is roughly equal to a 4690 give or take a bit. There will be a good amount of load on that CPU when running 720/1080. It wouldn't make sense to put a higher end card than the xx60 or perhaps the x700/x600 series from AMD.

In a case like this would suggest you first make sure you aren't having a lot of background applications/processes running taking up resources. Make sure your storage solution has enough open space. I assume you are on an SSD...Consider setting lower resolutions and/or lower quality settings and alongside that consider what your monitor capabilities are. If you have a 1080/60 monitor that supports V Sync there is no reason not to consider capping frames and so forth to help with a smoother experience.

Keep in mind that according to what motherboard you are running, you might be able to upgrade into Ryzen 5xxx. Same could be said for graphics so long as you have a suitable power supply.
 
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Actually find myself a bit surprised that the 1200 would run with the RAM @ 3200. The first gen Ryzen were pretty (in)famous for only wanting 2133 or 2400 speed RAM.

Without knowing more about what you have running in the background and so forth it is hard to suggest what 'could' be wrong and in particular whether you have realistic expectations of the equipment. The 1060 3GB card is going to struggle a lot nowadays simply because of the lack of VRAM. Even without that consideration, it is a low settings might get 60 FPS type card. The R3 1200 is roughly equal to a 4690 give or take a bit. There will be a good amount of load on that CPU when running 720/1080. It wouldn't make sense to put a higher end card than the xx60 or perhaps the x700/x600 series from AMD.

In a case like this would suggest you first make sure you aren't having a lot of background applications/processes running taking up resources. Make sure your storage solution has enough open space. I assume you are on an SSD...Consider setting lower resolutions and/or lower quality settings and alongside that consider what your monitor capabilities are. If you have a 1080/60 monitor that supports V Sync there is no reason not to consider capping frames and so forth to help with a smoother experience.

Keep in mind that according to what motherboard you are running, you might be able to upgrade into Ryzen 5xxx. Same could be said for graphics so long as you have a suitable power supply.
i play on 1080 resolution always anyway but the thing is that even lowering the resolution doesn't really do much. Also, the thing is that on YouTube people with the same gear are running the same games decently yet I for some reason have the stuttering like crazy I don't understand it.
 

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YT influencers and such are often compensated for reflecting products in a good light. Very hard to make comparisons unless you know for sure you are using the exact same products at the exact same settings, and so on....

Take with a grain of salt but, reboot your computer and give it about five mins without doing anything with it. If you use a frame counter such as Afterburner, turn it off, otherwise leave the system as it would be when you game.

Go to https://www.userbenchmark.com/ and run the test. Post the sharable link when you have done so.
 

punkncat

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A couple of things right off the bat.

Reduce background apps or use. 21% is high. Check in 'Startup' and see if there is anything automatically coming online that you could do as you need the application instead. Check down in the task bar/system tray and see if there is anything there you can close. Assuming you are on W10 go into Background Apps and turn things off you don't need or outright delete them from the system. Check to make sure your browser isn't set to run in the background.

Second, you don't have an XMP profile turned on. As I mentioned above, I doubt that 1st gen Ryzen will actually run at 3200, but would certainly work from the bottom up to see if you can get up to 2666 or a little better. You are currently running at 21xx. Something that may be helpful here is to download CPU-Z and take a look at the SPD tab where it will list the JEDEC and XMP timings as reported by your RAM itself and manually enter those timings. You may find that the selectable settings within your BIOS work fine.

For some reason, none of your drives completed the test run. This is possibly a deeper issue than I know how to suggest a fix for. The benchmark site itself says it could be some issue with the cabling? IDK on that part. Go to your motherboard manufacturers site and be sure you have the motherboard level SATA driver(s) and also check on AMD site for the newest chipset driver.

Be wary of going too far with BIOS updates, if you do. Watch the notes carefully because a lot of motherboard manufacturers actually eliminate support for 1st gen to make room in the BIOS to support (for instance) 5xxx series.
 

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And indeed, you are not running your memory at 3200. It is running at 2133. This is something you need to change in the BIOS if possible, as mentioned, an R3 1200 may not be able to go that fast.

Graphics card one can be ignored, it is within a few percent of correct. They want you to leave t V-Sync off during your testing so the GPU can produce the most frames possible.

Other than that, seems fine.