News AMD 24.9.1 drivers mark the proper debut of universal Fluid Motion Frames 2 — along with improved geometric downscaling

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Why did we spend the last 15+ years telling people to turn off the "Soap Opera Effect" on their TVs just to turn around and be told that Frame Generation is the only way to boost FPS in games?
 

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Why did we spend the last 15+ years telling people to turn off the "Soap Opera Effect" on their TVs just to turn around and be told that Frame Generation is the only way to boost FPS in games?
Because it changed the feel from film to video style. For games it's different, the more fps, the better. I guess it's a personal choice, and you should do whatever works for you.
 
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In my opinion, FPS is a metric to measure performance of a game with a given set of hardware. Adding generated frames not produced by the GPU is just inflating the FPS number just to make it look good. By itself, it introduces latency, which kind of defeats the purpose. You can improve latency with software, but you can enable it without frame gen and still benefit from it.
 
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Why did we spend the last 15+ years telling people to turn off the "Soap Opera Effect" on their TVs just to turn around and be told that Frame Generation is the only way to boost FPS in games?
It's really what people are used to.
Most are seeing more frames on their screens nowadays so 60 doesn't seem weird.
I don't have any issues with VR, but sometimes the low framerate at the movie theater makes me nauseous. Especially when panning and I am sitting close.

If people are used to 60+ they will like that . Really old people might still like cinematic framerates better for movies but that will fade as well.
 
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Why did we spend the last 15+ years telling people to turn off the "Soap Opera Effect" on their TVs just to turn around and be told that Frame Generation is the only way to boost FPS in games?
there's nuance to it! off the clock of writing articles like these, I take competitive gaming pretty seriously (including offline events)— and in the past I've disabled tech exactly like that on TVs whenever gaming. frame gen, especially in engine, is a little different. pretty much it does look smoother as long as you have stable performance, but the true input lag and thus final "feel" is still going to be pretty in-line with your true FPS. TV interpolation tended to either create huge artifacts or genuinely worsen input lag in a way that frame gen- better called frame smoothing- does not.
 

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I'm surprised people still think the garbage implementation of frame gen in TVs is the same as gaming GPUs.

They're vastly different technologies, and the one in TVs doesn't require active cooling, let alone a heatpipe cooler. Like totally different ballpark of computational power.
 

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Curious if movies in 1080p will look better with this on 1440p screen. Might not, based on the description, but gonna check in a while anyhow.
In my opinion, FPS is a metric to measure performance of a game with a given set of hardware. Adding generated frames not produced by the GPU is just inflating the FPS number just to make it look good. By itself, it introduces latency, which kind of defeats the purpose. You can improve latency with software, but you can enable it without frame gen and still benefit from it.
Such features sure don't replace actual GPU performance, and may not be of much use for everyone. They sound like a nice boost though, in particular with newer screens. I.e. in my case, I recently picked up a 3440x1440 with up to 180 Hz. And if this or that feature sort of helps to bridge the time until next-gen GPUs, I won't complain. And particularly with games such as city builders, a bit of added input lag shouldn't be that an issue. I mean, if it would take one second when drawing a street for it to be depicted, it would be annoying. But shouldn't be that bad - and a feature that helps to not lower graphical settings, nice.
 

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Why did we spend the last 15+ years telling people to turn off the "Soap Opera Effect" on their TVs just to turn around and be told that Frame Generation is the only way to boost FPS in games?
Who said FG is the only way to boost FPS in games? Upscalers have been pushed hard by first nVidia and then AMD.
 

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Frame gen is ok if the required info isn’t displayed instantaneous, for some of the artefacts of frame gen like mushy number turning in a screen, for like of flight sim altitude display, the frame gen while great at other portions, makes the display unreadable so I tend to disable that, but for upscaling tech or frame gen for like, open world adventures, they are ok to use to make your gpu last longer IMO