AMD: 2D Performance Progress in Windows 7 With Catalyst 10.4?

[Guest]

Not long ago, the 2D performance of newer ATI graphics cards left much to be desired in Windows 7. AMD acknowledged the problem and released new driver versions. We took a closer look at Catalyst 10.4 in order to let you know what has changed.

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[ta152h]

Well, Microsoft creating an even slower operating system than their previous one is a company tradition. Bloated, slow, buggy software is something they take seriously, and it's not up to companies like AMD or Nvidia to take this privilege from Microsoft. People like it - they keep buying it.

It's a pity OS/2 never made it. Windows needs real competition. Look what the K8 did to Intel.

 

[The Greater Good]

TA152H, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

 

[Guest]

Lines, ellipses, and polygons are rarely, if ever, used in window system toolkits from the last 5-7 years. You will likely never see them used other than in specialized benchmarks. They are an API vestige of days long past.

 

[Guest]

Am I missing something? 10.5 is the most recent

 

[Poisoner]

[citation][nom]the greater good[/nom]TA152H, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.[/citation]

What was insane about his post?

 

[Guest]

Does Catalyst 10.5 bring anything new to the table?

 

[spidey180]

Keep up the good work ATI.

 

[FUtomNOreg]

Now where did I put that PCMag Winbench CD?????

 

[outlw6669]

Does Catalyst 10.5 bring anything new to the table?

You can now over/underclock while running multiple displays without tearing on the second monitor....
Other than that, looks to be just a few minor bug fixes.

 

[neiroatopelcc]

[citation][nom]Poisoner[/nom]What was insane about his post?[/citation]
just everything


@ toms - nice article as usual.

 

[crazybaldhead]

Yes, this article needs to be updated for 10.5. Also with the newest drivers, my 4870's GPU clock idles at 600 Mhz and not at 450 Mhz like it used to.
Upping the idle clock frequencies is not a solution to the 2d performance problem, more like a *simple* workaround.

 

[Onus]

Just because he applied the sarcasm with a mortar rather than a butter knife does not make TA152H's post insane.

 

[Guest]

Keep doing those 2D testing. It's important for many users.

 

[cushgod]

10.5 Catalyst is out. Is that even better? Maybe a follow up article.

 

[juliom]

[citation][nom]crazybaldhead[/nom]Yes, this article needs to be updated for 10.5. Also with the newest drivers, my 4870's GPU clock idles at 600 Mhz and not at 450 Mhz like it used to. Upping the idle clock frequencies is not a solution to the 2d performance problem, more like a *simple* workaround.[/citation]

Since you don't even know that the 4870 idles at 500 MHz (not 450), double check the 600 MHz you think you saw.

 

[invlem]

[citation][nom]the greater good[/nom]TA152H, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.[/citation]

... Now I'm going to have to watch that movie again (Billy Madison)

 

[sohei]

competition is good ...bravo ATI

 

[misry]

[citation][nom]Cushgod[/nom]10.5 Catalyst is out. Is that even better? Maybe a follow up article.[/citation]

While it is only an incremental u/g it is still worth taking. From a practical standpoint, I found 10.4 made the installation of a (no cost) 4350 card to supplant my built-in 4200 chip "worth it". Prior to 10.4 I seemed to get better performance from the 4200. Afterward, while performance remains the same, given a high side margin of error, using the 4350 now notably off-loads tasks from the CPU *and* frees system memory.

 

[warezme]

[citation][nom]spidey180[/nom]Keep up the good work ATI.[/citation]
they fix a bug that shouldn't have been there to begin with?

 

[crazybaldhead]

Since you don't even know that the 4870 idles at 500 MHz (not 450), double check the 600 MHz you think you saw.

Hate to give in to trolls, but hey, here you go;

 

[COLGeek]

Drivers and capabilities nearly always improve with age (at least in terms of updated versions). I admit that I am an ATI and AMD fanboy for both my GPUs and CPUs with a very long history with both. I have always been pleased, eventually, with performace. Nearly all hardware vendors make driver improvements over time and the current ATI improvements are no different. Good work. HOOAH!!!

 

[falchard]

No one actually uses D2D in serious game development anymore. Most of the time its advised to use D3D using sprites even if you are making a 2D Isometric game. Outside of gaming there really isn't a need for more performance for 2D apps. Both nVidia and ATI have thrown D2D performance to the wayside and use the transistors for something more important.

 

[nukemaster]

[citation][nom]crazybaldhead[/nom]Hate to give in to trolls, but hey, here you go;[/citation]
It would suggest you check for other software running in the background using the video card. Even playing a video file will clock it up. If not, I would uninstall and run driver cleaner then reinstall. I just took my old 4870 out of the closet to test this. It still idles at 500. Win7 64-bit, 4870, 10.5 Driver...yadda yadda ,rest does not matter.
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/5740/4870n.jpg

 

[Deadfred]

I had been building a software 3D engine in a .Net winforms app (for fun) and noticed that whenever I had some media player window open my polygon render speed increased. I'm using GDI to draw polygons in my 3D scene after performing the 3D geometry math in software.