AMD 6000+ - What mobo to get?

[gwaves]

So ive got a new processor as you can see. I have a problem though, I can't seem to figure out what mobo to get with it. I'm not really experienced so I wanted some help. I'd appreciate it. Thanks.

I can choose from mobos that are under 100 euros. Is the ASUS M2A-VM good enough? It seems to have everything I need. But it was kind of cheap so I wonder if its a good purchase or not... Should I go with something else? Im so confused.

 

[jwlangs]

If you can stand it, AM2+ motherboards should be out by October. I'd just wait to get one of those, that way you can use the 6000+ as long as you want but you'll be good to go when Agena (Phenom) and Ridgeback (45 nm Phenom) come out :

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2214&Itemid=35

If you can hold out a couple more months, then you shouldn't need another motherboard for several more processor generations. I'm guessing 100 euros is ~$200 USD, you should be in good shape to purchase one.

 

[g-paw]

If you want a board with on board video, this one looks good. ASUS makes good boards. I current have a couple of ASUS M2NPV-VM boards that on the 6150 video and they are rock solid. The one you're looking at have a newer chipset.

 

[gwaves]

jwlangs: Thanks, but what advantages would AM2+ have for my 6000+? Also, what do you mean with "as long as you want"? This sounds pretty unfimiliar to me. I'm guessing less nm means less energy demanding?

Also g-paw, thanks alot. Good to see someone with a somewhat same kind of motherboard. I was aiming at the onboard graphics so I didn't have to purchase a videocard right away. Sounds like I made a good choice, although jwlangs reply worries me a bit.

 

[jwlangs]

jwlangs: Thanks, but what advantages would AM2+ have for my 6000+? Also, what do you mean with "as long as you want"? This sounds pretty unfimiliar to me. I'm guessing less nm means less energy demanding?

Sorry, a little unclear. I'm thinking of getting a 6000+ myself, but I want to wait until AM2+ mobos come out later this year. The reason being that AM2 processors out now will work on these upcoming boards, and as FUD mentions, so will several more generations of AMD processors. The advantage in my mind would be that you buy one motherboard and then you can upgrade the processor on that one motherboard for a while.

If you're looking for good boards with integrated graphics, check out the AMD 690G :

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...2010200022+107191003+1071928272&name=AMD+690G

And here are some boards based on the newer NVIDIA integrated graphics chips :

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...0022+107192258&name=NVIDIA+GeForce+7000+serie

These are going to be your best bets for integrated graphics. Asus and Gigabyte typically make quality boards. And truth be told, you should be able to stick an AMD quad core in these boards too with a BIOS update.

 

[tb28w3]

I have the EVGA 590 SLI mobo - Best mobo I've ever had, bar none. Stable, and can overclock with ease!

 

[searsj]

if you already have the 6000+ though, it probably makes sense to buy a board now-- not wait for another two months for the new tech to come out. seems like you're losing a lot of value by not having the computer for the intermediate time. otherwise you might as well have waited on buying the cpu cause it'll probly go down in price between now and october.

 

[ZOldDude]

Look into what DFI has to offer.

 

[rwayne]

If you need a MOBO right now try this out:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130057

MSI K9A Crossfire Platinum.
I have had mine since March and it is awesome.
Comes with a full fold out instructional poster.
Everything booted up on the first attempt.
The Bios are really good.

Very happy with it.
I plan on upgrading this fall to an AMD 64x2 6000 (energy efficent) then get a 2nd 1950 card to crossfire with my current one.

It has the 580X / 3200 chipset and has the Vista seal of approval from Microsoft.

 

[gwaves]

Thanks ALOT for the support guys, really apreciate it. Decided to go with my first choice (m2a-vm) since it was fairly new and had everything I need. Pretty future proof too, except for the socket.

But I got a little problem here. I have two drives, a hard drive and DVD-RW drive. They both have IDE slots, and the mobo only has 1 IDE slot. So I decided to hook the harddrive up to the mobo. Only, when I got to the windows XP boot screen, for a millisecond the BSOD came, and then it just restarts. whenever I plug the other drive in I get "DISK BOOT FAILURE, INSERT SYSTEM DISK AND PRESS ENTER". I have no idea whats up here, is it possible to connect both of these drives to one IDE port?

 

[g-paw]

Make sure you have the hdd drive jumpers set to Master and the DVD's to Slave with the hdd plug into the top of the data cable. Also make sure the hdd is set as the 1st boot device

 

[gwaves]

Sorry, i'm a little bit noob. This is what I understand:

I have this cable: click

The blue one goes into the motherboard, the middle one (slave?) into the dvd drive and the top one into the hdd, which is the master I suppose? After that I change the hdd to primary boot device in the bios. Correct, or am I doing something wrong?

 

[g-paw]

Yes to all but make sure the jumper pins on the back of the hdd is set to Master and the DVD set to slave. Setting the jumpers is just moving a little piece of plastic to the correct pins. Most hdd and DVD have what each setting is on the top or where the pins are? You'll have your choice of Master, Slave, or Cable Select. If you had these connected with separate data cables, they are likely set on Cable Select and need reset

 

[gwaves]

If I choose cable select, does it matter how the cables are set up? Because I need to switch the top and bottom, otherwise it won't reach to both drives. I'm guessing with cable select I can choose the primary boot drive in bios?

edit: the HDD has 4 pairs, it was set on the most right one. The dvd drive had 3 pairs, it was set on the most left one. which on is which? Or is it different on every drive?

I really apreciate the help you're giving me g-paw.

 

[g-paw]

If the various pin settings are indicated on the drives themselves, you'll have to go to the mfg website and check the particular models you have to see what the settings are because they can vary from mfg and model. Cable Select is just the setting that is usually used if you only have one driver connected to the cable, the computer is doing the selecting, you can't do it manually. When you have 2 devices connected to one cable you have to have a Master and Slave top, Black plug connects to the Master. Who are the mfgs and models of each drive?

 

[gwaves]

Samsung sp1604n (HDD)

TS-H552U (DVD, black one)

 

[g-paw]

Looks like for the Samsung the Plastic piece should be on the two pins on the far left
http://downloadcenter.samsung.com/content/UM/200704/20070419200104171_3.5_ Install_Gudie_Eng_200704.pdf

It looks like it's the center pins on the DVD. Also looks like there is a SL above the pins

 

[gwaves]

Okay i'll try changing. Also, I have these two cables:

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bild:IDE_cable_40_pin_%26_80_pin.jpg

Does it matter which I use? Because on the left, on hole is closed, while on the right they're not.

Also, what's SL?

 

[g-paw]

Start with the gray one, the one will with out the hole closed. If that doesn't work, try the other.

 

[gwaves]

Okay I used the right one since the left is too short, and I changed the plastic to the middle. BIOS recognised the HDD as master and DVD as slave, so thanks alot.

But I still seem to get the BSOD after the Windows XP boot screen, I can't see what the error is as it reboots too fast. Should I format and reinstall? 32-bit XP is compatible with the motherboard right? So I can't see whats the problem.

 

[g-paw]

Okay I used the right one since the left is too short, and I changed the plastic to the middle. BIOS recognised the HDD as master and DVD as slave, so thanks alot.

But I still seem to get the BSOD after the Windows XP boot screen, I can't see what the error is as it reboots too fast. Should I format and reinstall? 32-bit XP is compatible with the motherboard right? So I can't see whats the problem.

If this Windows was installed on another machine, I do a clean install with a full NTFS format. Yes XP 32 is compatible. It will wipe everything out so if you have any data be sure to back it up.

 

[gwaves]

Oh yea, my power supply has a total of 175 watt and uses 20 pins, while the manual says it needs a 300 watt supply with 24 pins. you could use 20 pins, but i'm not sure if the total of watt is enough, since I have a 6000+ in there as well. Is this the problem perhaps?

 

[g-paw]

Oh yea, my power supply has a total of 175 watt and uses 20 pins, while the manual says it needs a 300 watt supply with 24 pins. you could use 20 pins, but i'm not sure if the total of watt is enough, since I have a 6000+ in there as well. Is this the problem perhaps?

If your PSU is only 175w you need a more powerful PSU. Something like this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817104954

 

[gwaves]

Okay bought a 430 watt psu today. Problem was still there so I just formatted the thing and installed Windows. Works like a charm now, video card is a bit crappy, but going to update soon anyway. Thanks alot for the help you've been giving me.

 

[g-paw]

Okay bought a 430 watt psu today. Problem was still there so I just formatted the thing and installed Windows. Works like a charm now, video card is a bit crappy, but going to update soon anyway. Thanks alot for the help you've been giving me.

Glad I could help and everything worked out for you. Will celebrate you success with a beer