AMD 8350 With Cooler Master Seidon 120 v Temperature Problem !!!

[Ayman_4]

Hello everyone
I installed a Cooler Master Seidon 120v on my cpu AMD 8350 with Motherboard MSI 970A G43 and another cooler master fan 120 mm is installed in the PC Case

also I am using Cooler Master Paste the comes with Product

I live in Istanbul with 20c in day

the problem is :

IDLE Temperature is : 44 c with Cpu Fan 2000 rpm and PC Fan 1200
on Load Temperature is : 57 c with Cpu Fan 2000 rpm and Pc Fan 1200

so I am really not pleased with this results because I replaced my old Cooler system for this reason and I replaced it with liquid CM one because I heard alot about it but finally the performance is not like what Imagined

 

[BigBoomBoom]

You have the bottom end AIO, the end result is not going to surprise anyone. Still that idle temp doesn't look right, your case has only 1 120mm fan?

 

[ava3a13]

RPM-s seems good, but are you sure thermal paste is used correctly? Does it cover all of your cpu? How do you check for your CPU temperature, and let's mention that Load temperature is still Normal.

 

[Ayman_4]

You have the bottom end AIO, the end result is not going to surprise anyone. Still that idle temp doesn't look right, your case has only 1 120mm fan?

yes it has one 120 mm and even I left the case side is uncovered the result is like what I mentioned there is no difference

 

[Ayman_4]

RPM-s seems good, but are you sure thermal paste is used correctly? Does it cover all of your cpu? How do you check for your CPU temperature, and let's mention that Load temperature is still Normal.

I replaced the paste twice and the result didnot change I used a white paste and gray paste with full covered cpu

 

[ava3a13]

Can you try and set your FAN-s to higher working (In the BIOS)?

 

[Ayman_4]

Can you try and set your FAN-s to higher working (In the BIOS)?

first of all if I made it high it will make alot of noise without any needs because I raised the RPM to max 2400
second I have the seidon system in my work office with AMD 8150 but the Idle is 27 and the top load is 47 with the same programs with the same fan on pc side

 

[ava3a13]

Ok, And how are your PUMP and FAN headers connected to a Motherboard?

 

[Ayman_4]

Ok, And how are your PUMP and FAN headers connected to a Motherboard?

Ok I will explain to you
I connect the CPU Fan with CPU Fan Pin (4 pin)
and the Pump with Sys Fan2 pin (3 pin)
if you download the manual you will understand me very well from here : https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/970A-G43.html#down-manual

thank you for helping

 

[ava3a13]

Can you try and change them?

 

[Ayman_4]

Can you try and change them?

I changed them before and now I've changed them there's no difference
Ok how can I know whether the Pump is working well or not

 

[ava3a13]

The pump is visible as RPM.

 

[Ayman_4]

The pump is visible as RPM.

No the Rpm is for rear fan of Seidon

 

[ava3a13]

Well, what if you connect your pump to a molex?

 

[Ayman_4]

Well, what if you connect your pump to a molex?

What Molex ???

 

[ava3a13]

That's a molex. 4 pin connector, that comes from a PSU.

 

[Ayman_4]

That's a molex. 4 pin connector, that comes from a PSU.

ahaa OK thank you
how to connect to it if the Pump has not suitable Molex for this
I mean the Pump has pin it doesnt has a cable like this

 

[ava3a13]

Go to an it store, they should have one and it doesn't cost much, some cents.

 

[madmatt30]

You have an accident waiting to happen with an 8350 on a g43 board with an aio cooler mate.

I would not entertain running an 8 core on the g43 for starters , the vrm setup cannot handle it even with added vrm cooling.

Addind an aio removes any & all additional airflow over the vrm's that youd get with a stock downblower.

You have an inconceivably bad combination of components there.

Expect at best extreme throttling & at worst ?? Well the g43/g46 boards have been known to catch fire.

 

[Ayman_4]

Go to an it store, they should have one and it doesn't cost much, some cents.

Ok no problem but the question is here :
do you mean that the electricity that comes from MB to Pin to Pump is not enough and if I connect it to Molex is there any dangerous on Pump
my PSU is 600W

 

[Ayman_4]

You have an accident waiting to happen with an 8350 on a g43 board with an aio cooler mate.

I would not entertain running an 8 core on the g43 for starters , the vrm setup cannot handle it even with added vrm cooling.

Addind an aio removes any & all additional airflow over the vrm's that youd get with a stock downblower.

You have an inconceivably bad combination of components there.

Expect at best extreme throttling & at worst ?? Well the g43/g46 boards have been known to catch fire.

OH OH
you mean that the MSI 970a-G43 is not suitable for these kind of CPUs ?????

 

[madmatt30]

You have an accident waiting to happen with an 8350 on a g43 board with an aio cooler mate.

I would not entertain running an 8 core on the g43 for starters , the vrm setup cannot handle it even with added vrm cooling.

Addind an aio removes any & all additional airflow over the vrm's that youd get with a stock downblower.

You have an inconceivably bad combination of components there.

Expect at best extreme throttling & at worst ?? Well the g43/g46 boards have been known to catch fire.

OH OH
you mean that the MSI 970a-G43 is not suitable for these kind of CPUs ?????

exactly that mate,you should honestly consider replacing the board.

Your temps may well be down to having to push increased voltage to try & stabilise the cpu.
Which it still wont actually manage.

 

[Ayman_4]

You have an accident waiting to happen with an 8350 on a g43 board with an aio cooler mate.

I would not entertain running an 8 core on the g43 for starters , the vrm setup cannot handle it even with added vrm cooling.

Addind an aio removes any & all additional airflow over the vrm's that youd get with a stock downblower.

You have an inconceivably bad combination of components there.

Expect at best extreme throttling & at worst ?? Well the g43/g46 boards have been known to catch fire.

OH OH
you mean that the MSI 970a-G43 is not suitable for these kind of CPUs ?????

exactly that mate,you should honestly consider replacing the board.

Your temps may well be down to having to push increased voltage to try & stabilise the cpu.
Which it still wont actually manage.

Actually you are 100% Right
according to this : http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/answers/id-2271736/msi-970a-g43-amd-8350.html
so I must change my piece of **** Motherboard

thank you every one for helping