News AMD 9800X3D 'failures/deaths' Reddit megathread indicates the vast majority may be happening on ASRock motherboards

[Admin]

Ryzen 7 9800X3D's are allegedly dying at an abnormally high rate on ASRock motherboards. An ASRock Reddit moderator has created a megathread detailing the issues.

AMD 9800X3D 'failures/deaths' Reddit megathread indicates the vast majority may be happening on ASRock motherboards : Read more

 

[Jagar123]

Seeing as I upgraded to a 9800X3D and an AsRock X870E Taichi Lite motherboard last December I have some minor concerns. My temperatures and stability have been great though.

Chuckles

 

[toffty]

Seeing as I upgraded to a 9800X3D and an AsRock X870E Taichi Lite motherboard last December I have some minor concerns. My temperatures and stability have been great though.

Chuckles

Haha I'm in the same situation and same mobo. I'm keeping the firmware I have now since it's been great. If a fix comes out, I'll give it a few months and then update.

 

[EzzyB]

the most telling issue is that 32 of the 40 reports come from users featuring an ASRock motherboard.

Why is that surprising seeing as how the thread was on an Asrock subreddit?

 

[UnforcedERROR]

Seeing as I upgraded to a 9800X3D and an AsRock X870E Taichi Lite motherboard last December I have some minor concerns. My temperatures and stability have been great though.

Chuckles

A cursory glance through the topics makes it seem like the culprit is the Nova x870e version almost specifically, but I didn't dig super deep so I could be wrong.

 

[DavidLejdar]

9800X3D since release day (Nov 7), on an ASRock X670E, and works. Updated UEFI/BIOS before install (3.10, and didn't update since), and then manually also the chipset driver. Device manager showed an error before updating driver, and the error then disappeared after the update. I did send a report about that to ASRock TechSupport, to let them know. I do use also the 4-pin MB-PSU-connector for CPU power, with a modular PSU (80plus Gold), which could carry a 5090.

(ASRock BIOS newest beta,, has a note to update the chipset driver to version 7.01.08.129 - No clue if the note has to do with the issue, but from the overall description, also a possible point of failure, I suppose.)

 

[RXvsRTX007]

Well as I read it 9900 9950 3Dd caches are OK?
My 9960X has a late BIOS....SO ITS ONLY A short time under a year and no trouble with 95w. and under 100w. highs registered in HWMON as peaks.

Can it be some oddity of core counts and cache that mismatch, a disharmony or assemetry.

 

[Alvar "Miles" Udell]

Buy an AMD 9800X3D, it may die!

Buy an RTX 5080/5090, it may be missing ROPs, or it may die!

 

[RXvsRTX007]

Buy an AMD 9800X3D, it may die!

Buy an RTX 5080/5090, it may be missing ROPs, or it may die!

Ur Big Tech buddies cherry pick the Golden Samples, but I might be lying as the use Thread Rippers on up and $10,000 Xeons.

 

[Jagar123]

A cursory glance through the topics makes it seem like the culprit is the Nova x870e version almost specifically, but I didn't dig super deep so I could be wrong.

I was actually going for that exact board. I spent weeks trying for either that board or the Taichi Lite. I only ended up with the Tachi Lite because it was available for a few minutes whereas the Nova never was. I am guessing the Nova is just used more as it is the best bang for buck board for the X870E chipset.

 

[suryasans]

It seems the power controller IC might be the culprit for those Asrock AMD AM5 motherboards problems.

 

[timsSOFTWARE]

Ryzen 7 9800X3D's are allegedly dying at an abnormally high rate on ASRock motherboards. An ASRock Reddit moderator has created a megathread detailing the issues.

AMD 9800X3D 'failures/deaths' Reddit megathread indicates the vast majority may be happening on ASRock motherboards : Read more

The first and most obvious/only thing that comes to mind is power delivery. Too much power, irregular/inconsistent/spiky power maybe - but in some way power related.

 

[sjkpublic]

ASRock is Taiwan. Taiwan still has TSMC. Less so for everything else. God
bless Taiwan for Clonezilla.

 

[Amdlova]

Old cpus
Low clock
Last forever...

New cpus run hot always clocking too aggressive. To counter that I have these intel T cpus, Always cool and slow.

 

[YSCCC]

If it concentrates on one specific board, maybe some bios/VRM issues spiking power over some occasions?

Or pure speculation maybe since the new 9800X3D have put the 3DVC now on the bottom to let the CCD dissipate heat better, maybe some high, peaky power draw to the CCD will heat up the 3DVC beneath and somehow cook it?

 

[redgarl]

Blaming AMD for AIBs faulty BIOS...

You medias didn`t learned from the 7000 series?

 

[YSCCC]

Ok, now more post float up on reddit and seems ASUS and Asrock is yet again somehow having 1.8v SOC... maybe yet again some AGESA fk up or someone forgot the key in the SOC cap for ryzen...

 

[TerryLaze]

Blaming AMD for AIBs faulty BIOS...

You medias didn`t learned from the 7000 series?

No matter how faulty the bios is a CPU shouldn't blow up, it should shut down and refuse to work.
AMD is the one that knew about the problem from the 7000 series and didn't fix it, AMD knew they had no over volt protection on the vsoc and they just don't care.

 

[jkhoward]

How much did Nvidia pay you to write this article? AMD has already sold thousands and thousands of these CPUs, and 40 people have an issue? Big deal.

 

[3f9y9f242]

Ryzen 7 9800X3D's are allegedly dying at an abnormally high rate on ASRock motherboards. An ASRock Reddit moderator has created a megathread detailing the issues.

AMD 9800X3D 'failures/deaths' Reddit megathread indicates the vast majority may be happening on ASRock motherboards : Read more

ASRock official announcement

Details will be released later, but since there is a lot of misinformation being spread, here's a quick note!

The bottom line is that it's not broken.

The problem is that some CPUs don't start up due to memory compatibility issues.

 

[Misgar]

New cpus run hot always clocking too aggressive. To counter that I have these intel T cpus, Always cool and slow.

Talking of slow processors, perhaps I should dig out an old comouter with a 6502 CPU clocked at 2MHz. The CPU was not fitted with a heatsink and ran hot, so I installed a heatsink and a humming bird piezo electric fan, obtained as a free sample.

The image below shows the principle but not my particular fan or heatsink.

AMD knew they had no over volt protection on the vsoc and they just don't care.

There are plenty of 1.8V zener diodes about but they seem to be low power surface mount devices up to 600mW. What you need is a large 50W stud mount device to handle the power.

 

[Misgar]

Ryzen 7 9800X3D's are allegedly dying at an abnormally high rate on ASRock motherboards.

This smacks of insufficient "revision testing" to uncover firmware bugs.
https://fastercapital.com/content/F...o-Test-Your-Product-for-Firmware-Quality.html

At work we spend weeks testing each new firmware update on aeronautics hardware. The test rigs generate copious amounts of data which is then passed back to the software design team.

When working in the Aerospace industry, you don't want planes, rockets and satellites falling out of the sky, just because you've failed to test hardware/firmware/software thoroughly.

Asrock (and all the other motherboard manufacturers) together with AMD are faced with similar problems, each time AGESA is updated. I guess they just don't spend as many millions of dollars revision testing on commercial CPU/motherboards as some industries do.

 

[Gururu]

How much did Nvidia pay you to write this article? AMD has already sold thousands and thousands of these CPUs, and 40 people have an issue? Big deal.

And they will sell thousands more, but maybe there is an underlying issue that can be fixed because people piped up.

 

[SirStephenH]

This could indicate an ASRock problem or it could be like the Intel 13th and 14th gen issue where voltage settings on certain motherboards far more greatly exposed an issue with the CPU itself.

 

[rambo919]

This smacks of insufficient "revision testing" to uncover firmware bugs.

That being the standard should be obvious by now, what else can happen if you every year or more times a year release a new model? HOW are you going to properly test ANYTHING.