AMD A10-5800K + RX580 or Ryzen 5 2400G?

[jukenn]

So I have an amd A10-5800k without a dedicated graphics card and I'm looking for an upgrade. The thing is the Ryzen 5 2400g with motherboard and 2x4 ddr4 3200 ram included is at the same price as the Sapphire Radeon Nitro+ RX 580 8 GB at a local store, I've seen what a 2400g can do and i'd guess is the safest bet since I don't really know how much the rx580 can do with such a weak processor, yet I still feel like buying the rx580 and then later on December or so replace the a10 with something better than the 2400g. What would you guys recommend me to do?

 

[gingerrankin]

Although your cpu is too weak for a RX-580 8GB, for games your cpu + RX580 will behave much better than the Ryzen 5 2400G. For other uses such as rendering videos, the Ryzen 5 2400G will perform better.

Anyway Note that an RX 580 requires a psu of at least 500 W and a 6-pin and 8-pin connector.

Now graphics are more afordable and, in december cpu sure will be cheaper than now.

 

[geofelt]

You buy a APU for the excellent integrated graphics.
But, there are no real good CPU upgrades, particularly for a gamer.
If you install a superior discrete graphics card, you will have thrown away the big advantage of the APU.
Then, you are left with a relatively weak cpu. Most games depend on only a few fast cores.

Bottom line.....
What you get with a APU is what you will live with forever.

Your apu has a relatively weak core speed by today's standards.

It might be sufficient for some games.

Run YOUR games, but lower your resolution and eye candy.
If your FPS increases, it indicates that your cpu is strong enough to drive a better graphics configuration.
If your FPS stays the same, you are likely more cpu limited.

If you need a cpu upgrade, look at current gen intel or ryzen.
I would avoid the apu path unless you do not plan on using a discrete graphics card.

 

[justin.m.beauvais]

I agree with gingerrankin. Although you won't be able to get all the performance you can out of the RX 580, it will be a better gaming experience than the 2400G with the onboard Vega graphics.

I like your upgrade idea though... and having the 580 will make the wait more bearable. However, if you are using the onboard A10 graphics, then the 2400G would be a huge upgrade in every way. The more I think about it, the more the 2400G makes more sense, assuming you don't already have a dedicated graphics card... except for the part where any GPU would be limited to an 8x PCI-E slot. You might not get everything there is to get out of the 580 or comparable card when you upgrade.

So, reasoning it out, you should get the RX 580 now. Then when you do your CPU upgrade you can get a Ryzen chip without graphics to get all the performance your 580 will have, probably something like an R5 1600 or 2600 would be a good pairing, even an R3 1300X would be a huge upgrade from the A10. Or, if you are feeling blasphemous, you could go Intel and get something like the i3 8100

 

[jukenn]

Although your cpu is too weak for a RX-580 8GB, for games your cpu + RX580 will behave much better than the Ryzen 5 2400G. For other uses such as rendering videos, the Ryzen 5 2400G will perform better.

Anyway Note that an RX 580 requires a psu of at least 500 W and a 6-pin and 8-pin connector.

Now graphics are more afordable and, in december cpu sure will be cheaper than now.

That's really good to know since i was really reluctant to the idea of getting the 2400G instead of the RX580 or a better proccesor just for the sake of it having integrated graphics

As for the psu i have a 600W one with 2x8 pin connectors so i think i should be fine for now
Thanks for the help!

 

[jukenn]

Although your cpu is too weak for a RX-580 8GB, for games your cpu + RX580 will behave much better than the Ryzen 5 2400G. For other uses such as rendering videos, the Ryzen 5 2400G will perform better.

Anyway Note that an RX 580 requires a psu of at least 500 W and a 6-pin and 8-pin connector.

Now graphics are more afordable and, in december cpu sure will be cheaper than now.

I agree with gingerrankin. Although you won't be able to get all the performance you can out of the RX 580, it will be a better gaming experience than the 2400G with the onboard Vega graphics.

I like your upgrade idea though... and having the 580 will make the wait more bearable. However, if you are using the onboard A10 graphics, then the 2400G would be a huge upgrade in every way. The more I think about it, the more the 2400G makes more sense, assuming you don't already have a dedicated graphics card... except for the part where any GPU would be limited to an 8x PCI-E slot. You might not get everything there is to get out of the 580 or comparable card when you upgrade.

So, reasoning it out, you should get the RX 580 now. Then when you do your CPU upgrade you can get a Ryzen chip without graphics to get all the performance your 580 will have, probably something like an R5 1600 or 2600 would be a good pairing, even an R3 1300X would be a huge upgrade from the A10. Or, if you are feeling blasphemous, you could go Intel and get something like the i3 8100

Knowing this really makes the decision way easier, i was worried about the 580 + the A10 underperforming to the point where the 2400G would do a better job gamingwise, and since on the (not so) long run getting the 2400G would restrict me one way or another then the RX580 is the way to go!

Sounds good to me! I will probably stick with AMD since Intel's chips are quite pricey here so i'll keep your suggestions in mind once i go for the cpu upgrade.
Thanks for the big help guys!