AMD A10-7870K might be overheating

[hueyz]

Hello everyone, I have a question about my CPU. I am not sure if it is overheating. Sometimes with no load on it will run at around 70c, and in the pic provided you can see it running in the 90's, hitting the high 90's when I have GTA V full screen. I am using the 780 and not the APU for graphics These are my system specs.

Case: Rosewill STAR PREDATOR http://tinyurl.com/lywwf89
Motherboard: A88X-PLUS http://tinyurl.com/lv2877g
CPU: AMD A10-7870K http://tinyurl.com/o8gb4la
RAM: G.SKILL ARES SERIES 16GB 2400MHZ http://tinyurl.com/py9ch5p
SSD: Mushkin 240GB http://tinyurl.com/njbvp27
PSU: Thermaltake TR-700
GPU: EVGA GTX 780 SUPERCLOCKED 3GB

http://i57.tinypic.com/2gv0h80.jpg

 

[bgunner]

Download AMDOverdrive and under temps look at the thermal margin. This tells you how many degrees before you start to throttle. If it gets to 1 or turns red and numbers start going up you have a temp issue and need to address it.

This will tell you if you are having issues with temperature.

AMD uses a math mathematical algorithm to guess at temps and not sensors so using programs to read temps are usually off. AMDOverdrive's thermal margin temp is the only sure fire way to tell if temps are an issue.

 

[Douglas_2]

Many things can cause this issue:

- Too much or too little paste over the CPU heatspread.
- Heatspread not fully in contact with the heatsink
- Broken temperature sensor

Considering the temperature of the rest of your system, I think these are the only possible issues. Does the CPU throttle as soon as it begins to hit these high temperatures? Keeping an eye on voltage can also be helpful.

 

[hueyz]

I just installed AMD Overdrive for the first time, and as soon as I try and start it, my computer crashes and reboots. So I cannot do what you suggested bgunner, is this an issue with the software or my CPU? I should also note that it is running on a stock cooler. I will try and re-apply paste and just do the one dot paste spread method. That is all I can think of. I installed 2 new fans, one on the side panel directly over my GPU blowing air on it, and one on top of my case blowing air at the CPU.

 

[bgunner]

Top fans should be blowing out sucking the heat out of the case and not in. As for AMD overdrive, I'm sure it is not your CPU but it is possible the motherboard has an issue with Overderive.

Go ahead and reapply the thermal paste as a start. Only put on a small pea size dab of thermal paste on the CPU. Then put the cooler on, making sure that you do not lift the cooler after it is put down the first time, and latch it down.

 

[hueyz]

I will try this and report back with results, I am also considering purchasing a water cooler for it. I wanted to OC the CPU, but these temps are worrying me a lot specially since I am no longer using the cpu graphics.

 

[bgunner]

Any time you plan on OCing the CPU you need to purchase an aftermarket cooler as the stock cooler does not cool enough to handle the extra heat. v

 

[hueyz]

it runs at almost the same temps at stock, I will put a pic up soon and when I repaste it.

 

[Douglas_2]

it runs at almost the same temps at stock, I will put a pic up soon and when I repaste it.

Did you manage to get everything sorted? Did the paste help?

 

[hueyz]

Forgot to update this thread. I went ahead and purchased a Evo 212, and cleaned off the old paste. Temps are around 50c full load no OC. I did replace the fans and the top fan is now no longer an intake fan. I appreciate the help you have all provided but I must say I will not be building AMD for a while, it has been nothing but sour experiences since the Phenom xII days.

 

[Daniel Thomas]

Forgot to update this thread. I went ahead and purchased a Evo 212, and cleaned off the old paste. Temps are around 50c full load no OC. I did replace the fans and the top fan is now no longer an intake fan. I appreciate the help you have all provided but I must say I will not be building AMD for a while, it has been nothing but sour experiences since the Phenom xII days.

Yeah, I'm having the same issue too. I'm not even using the iGPU any more like you, I have a GTX 950. Temps reach 100C during loads. I did replace my paste with some Arctic Silver because I had to replace my MOBO again. So the paste hasn't settled in quite yet, so I'll give it that, but my guess is that the sensors in these APU's are just hot garbage. The only place you get supposedly accurate reading are in AMD overdrive, but those are only in thermal margins, so I think you have to subtract temps or something.

 

[bgunner]

Forgot to update this thread. I went ahead and purchased a Evo 212, and cleaned off the old paste. Temps are around 50c full load no OC. I did replace the fans and the top fan is now no longer an intake fan. I appreciate the help you have all provided but I must say I will not be building AMD for a while, it has been nothing but sour experiences since the Phenom xII days.

The only place you get supposedly accurate reading are in AMD overdrive, but those are only in thermal margins, so I think you have to subtract temps or something.

This is untrue. There is no need to subtract anything. The Thermal Margin tells you how many more degree's you have to go before you over heat/CPU starts to throttle due to heat. While it is not temperature reading It is actually more accurate. Once the reading gets to 0°C your CPU will start to throttle. AMD uses a "Mathematical Algorithm" to show a temperature reading. This algorithm uses CPU load, current voltage and current wattage drawn to try to calculate the temperature of the CPU because there are no sensors in the CPU unlike the Phenom series and Intel CPU's. Due to this you can not trust the Temp readings from programs and must use AOD's Thermal Margin to get an accurate reading on where your CPU sits for overheating.

 

[Daniel Thomas]

Forgot to update this thread. I went ahead and purchased a Evo 212, and cleaned off the old paste. Temps are around 50c full load no OC. I did replace the fans and the top fan is now no longer an intake fan. I appreciate the help you have all provided but I must say I will not be building AMD for a while, it has been nothing but sour experiences since the Phenom xII days.

The only place you get supposedly accurate reading are in AMD overdrive, but those are only in thermal margins, so I think you have to subtract temps or something.

This is untrue. There is no need to subtract anything. The Thermal Margin tells you how many more degree's you have to go before you over heat/CPU starts to throttle due to heat. While it is not temperature reading It is actually more accurate. Once the reading gets to 0°C your CPU will start to throttle. AMD uses a "Mathematical Algorithm" to show a temperature reading. This algorithm uses CPU load, current voltage and current wattage drawn to try to calculate the temperature of the CPU because there are no sensors in the CPU unlike the Phenom series and Intel CPU's. Due to this you can not trust the Temp readings from programs and must use AOD's Thermal Margin to get an accurate reading on where your CPU sits for overheating.

Oh, ok. This makes more sense now. In guess nothing is overheating then.