AMD A8-7600 APU Idle and Gaming Temperature too high?

[AnimexGamer]

Hello. I built my build with the A8-7600 3 months ago. For the relevant parts, I have an Ice Edge Mini FS V.2.0 CPU cooler, 1 back and 1 side exhaust fan.

I've been noticing lately in HWMonitor that idle temp is around 44 - 56C and gaming is around 64 - 80 (maximum temp I've ever had).

is this normal for my cpu? I mostly play Dota 2 and CS:GO on 3-6 hours daily.

 

[Andrei-Florin Gogan]

Those temperatures are quite high. What are you using to read the temperatures. Are you playing with a dedicated graphics card or the integrated one ?

 

[AnimexGamer]

I'm using the HWMonitor program. I'm also playing with its integrated graphics.

 

[AnimexGamer]

Those temperatures are quite high. What are you using to read the temperatures. Are you playing with a dedicated graphics card or the integrated one ?

I'm using the HWMonitor program. I'm also playing with its integrated graphics.

 

[Andrei-Florin Gogan]

Those temperatures are quite high. What are you using to read the temperatures. Are you playing with a dedicated graphics card or the integrated one ?

I'm using the HWMonitor program. I'm also playing with its integrated graphics.

Try reading the temps with AMD Overdrive. I would blame that CPU cooler anyway. It is a low performance CPU cooler. It has only 2 heat pipes, a very thin heatsink and the fan is only 80mm and not a good one . The first thing you should do is to reapply thermal paste and see how it goes. Do you have an exhaust fan at the top or back of the case?

 

[AnimexGamer]

Those temperatures are quite high. What are you using to read the temperatures. Are you playing with a dedicated graphics card or the integrated one ?

I'm using the HWMonitor program. I'm also playing with its integrated graphics.

Try reading the temps with AMD Overdrive. I would blame that CPU cooler anyway. It is a low performance CPU cooler. It has only 2 heat pipes, a very thin heatsink and the fan is only 80mm and not a good one . The first thing you should do is to reapply thermal paste and see how it goes. Do you have an exhaust fan at the top or back of the case?

I already have thermal paste applied, and I have exhaust fans at the top back and top side. What is AMD Overdrive?

 

[Andrei-Florin Gogan]

AMD Overdrive allows you to read the thermal margins on a AMD CPU. As far as I'm aware, it's the only software out there which can read the margins accurately.

 

[AnimexGamer]

Please enlighten me on these "margins". So does that mean HWMonitor is not reliable ? Would the A8's stock cooler be better than this Ice Edge Mini FS V.2?

 

[unreal9400]

I agree 2 heat pipe is not enough.
You need to find at least 3 copper heat pipes and 92 mm fan.

 

[Andrei-Florin Gogan]

Please enlighten me on these "margins". So does that mean HWMonitor is not reliable ?

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/faq/id-2122665/understanding-temperature-amd-cpus-apus.html

Have a look at this

 

[AnimexGamer]

I agree 2 heat pipe is not enough.
You need to find at least 3 copper heat pipes and 92 mm fan.

Thank you for your support What cooler would you suggest me for this APU?

Please enlighten me on these "margins". So does that mean HWMonitor is not reliable ?

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/faq/id-2122665/understanding-temperature-amd-cpus-apus.html

Have a look at this

Thanks. So, I tried playing Dota 2 with the settings I play normally (Ultra) and thse are the results.
HWMonitor: 80 degree celsius
AMD Overdrive Thermal Margin: 38.8 degree celsius.

I think I understand that Thermal Margin is the difference between the maximum operating temperature of the CPU and the current operating temperature? Correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[Andrei-Florin Gogan]

I agree 2 heat pipe is not enough.
You need to find at least 3 copper heat pipes and 92 mm fan.

Thank you for your support What cooler would you suggest me for this APU?

Please enlighten me on these "margins". So does that mean HWMonitor is not reliable ?

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/faq/id-2122665/understanding-temperature-amd-cpus-apus.html

Have a look at this

Thanks. So, I tried playing Dota 2 with the settings I play normally (Ultra) and thse are the results.
HWMonitor: 80 degree celsius
AMD Overdrive Thermal Margin: 38.8 degree celsius.

I think I understand that Thermal Margin is the difference between the maximum operating temperature of the CPU and the current operating temperature? Correct me if I'm wrong.

You are absolutely right. The fact is , there is no way to read accurately the temperatures on an AMD CPU. Having the thermal margin at 38 C I would assume it's under load and you can only guess from there what is the real temperature. I would say it's pretty close to 60 C which is not good at all.

 

[AnimexGamer]

I agree 2 heat pipe is not enough.
You need to find at least 3 copper heat pipes and 92 mm fan.

Thank you for your support What cooler would you suggest me for this APU?

Please enlighten me on these "margins". So does that mean HWMonitor is not reliable ?

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/faq/id-2122665/understanding-temperature-amd-cpus-apus.html

Have a look at this

Thanks. So, I tried playing Dota 2 with the settings I play normally (Ultra) and thse are the results.
HWMonitor: 80 degree celsius
AMD Overdrive Thermal Margin: 38.8 degree celsius.

I think I understand that Thermal Margin is the difference between the maximum operating temperature of the CPU and the current operating temperature? Correct me if I'm wrong.

You are absolutely right. The fact is , there is no way to read accurately the temperatures on an AMD CPU. Having the thermal margin at 38 C I would assume it's under load and you can only guess from there what is the real temperature. I would say it's pretty close to 60 C which is not good at all.

Thank you so very much for your patience with me. I have one last question.

I've researched the A8-7600's maximum operating temperature, and it shows that the max. is 71.3*C. If that is the Maximum Operating Temperature, subtracted by the 38.8*C Thermal Margin, would that mean that my actual CPU temperature is 32*C? I'm sorry I don't really know any of this stuff.

 

[Andrei-Florin Gogan]

Thermal margin works in reverse. The higher the thermal margin is, the lower the actual temperature. So if thermal margin is 40C, the temperature would be at around 60C which is very hot for idle load. when you reach and get past 70C, your CPU will start to throttle and give you FPS drops and lag. A better CPU cooler will solve your problem 99%.

 

[AnimexGamer]

Thermal margin works in reverse. The higher the thermal margin is, the lower the actual temperature. So if thermal margin is 40C, the temperature would be at around 60C which is very hot for idle load. when you reach and get past 70C, your CPU will start to throttle and give you FPS drops and lag. A better CPU cooler will solve your problem 99%.

My idle load is only around 44-46 degree celsius. My only concern is that under heavy gaming load, the HWMonitor shows an 80 degree celsius temperature.

While gaming, the thermal margin shows 38.8 degree celsius. Now, in CPU-world, the A8-7600's maximum operating temperature is 71.3 degree celsius. Help me please?

 

[unreal9400]

I agree 2 heat pipe is not enough.
You need to find at least 3 copper heat pipes and 92 mm fan.

Thank you for your support What cooler would you suggest me for this APU?

Please enlighten me on these "margins". So does that mean HWMonitor is not reliable ?

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/faq/id-2122665/understanding-temperature-amd-cpus-apus.html

Have a look at this

Thanks. So, I tried playing Dota 2 with the settings I play normally (Ultra) and thse are the results.
HWMonitor: 80 degree celsius
AMD Overdrive Thermal Margin: 38.8 degree celsius.

I think I understand that Thermal Margin is the difference between the maximum operating temperature of the CPU and the current operating temperature? Correct me if I'm wrong.

This product is compatible with your CPU socket.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103099

 

[Andrei-Florin Gogan]

A better CPU cooler will fix all of your problems.

 

[strike_mike]

Hello. I built my build with the A8-7600 3 months ago. For the relevant parts, I have an Ice Edge Mini FS V.2.0 CPU cooler, 1 back and 1 side exhaust fan.

I've been noticing lately in HWMonitor that idle temp is around 44 - 56C and gaming is around 64 - 80 (maximum temp I've ever had).

is this normal for my cpu? I mostly play Dota 2 and CS:GO on 3-6 hours daily.

hi try using the hyper 212x by cooler master, my idle temp is at 30-35. when i'm playing it usually gets up to 45 with medium light to meduim games

 

[strike_mike]

try using using cm 212x hyper. it works wonder for my a8 7600

 

[darthvader30]

It's because of your fan placement. Make it side intake and back exhaust so that it blows cold air directly on the APU heatsink and the back fan exhausts the hot air.