AMD A8 CPU in desktop new cooler

[CloudStrife0]

Hi,

I have a "HP ProDesk 405 G2 Microtower PC". So I've done some research and found this CPU is used in laptop and such, and I have it in my desktop, ehh. It's socket is FT3B (BGA-769). I wanted to buy the Hyper 212 EVO cooler for this PC.

The case is an okay size (16.5cm width), and there is loads of room. But I don't know what cooler can fit, can anyone recommend me a cooler for this.

Screw position distances 5cm square for heatsink attached to mobo (fan screwed onto heatsink)

Side view of heatsink/fan, absolutely tiny, and 16.5 cm case height

HP ProDesk 405 G2 Microtower PC datasheet:
http://h71016.www7.hp.com/html/pdfs/HP_ProDesk_405_G2_Microtower_PC_Datasheet.pdf

Thanks

 

[i7Baby]

What motherboard are you putting it on in your desktop PC?

 

[rwinches]

The A8 6410 has a TDP of 15 watts so it doesn't need much cooling.

With 5cm centers it would be difficult to find an aftermarket cooler.

 

[CloudStrife0]

Do any heatsink have adjustable screws to make it 5x5cm apart. Or can any heatsinks be attached to the original?

 

[i7Baby]

What motherboard?

 

[CloudStrife0]

What motherboard?

Mobo is: MS-7938
Here's a full image I found:

Any hack type methods to fit a good cooler on? I was thinking keeping the original heatsink on, then putting some decent radiator/cooler on top, but how to attach hmmm.

Also it's a pre-built PC if you didn't notice the datasheet

 

[i7Baby]

Its out of a HP - http://support.hp.com/au-en/document/c02014355

and runs Lynnefield CPUs - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynnfield_%28microprocessor%29 - LGA1156 socket

The Coolermaster Hyper 212 evo suits - LGA 1366 / 1155 / 1150 and AMD FM2 / FM1 / AM3+

LGA1155 is identical in size to LGA1156 so the cooler should fit.

All these should fit - http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&IsNodeId=1&N=100008000%20600482734

 

[CloudStrife0]

Its out of a HP - http://support.hp.com/au-en/document/c02014355

and runs Lynnefield CPUs - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynnfield_%28microprocessor%29 - LGA1156 socket

The Coolermaster Hyper 212 evo suits - LGA 1366 / 1155 / 1150 and AMD FM2 / FM1 / AM3+

LGA1155 is identical in size to LGA1156 so the cooler should fit.

All these should fit - http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&IsNodeId=1&N=100008000%20600482734

The LGA 1155/6 you mentioned has larger screw designs than mine at 5cm apart. All of the newegg coolers on your link have heatsink dimensions of like 95mm

You sure the link you posted to mobo MS-7613 is same as my MS-7938 in terms of socket screw sizes ;/

 

[Cristi72]

Hi,

I have a "HP ProDesk 405 G2 Microtower PC". So I've done some research and found this CPU is used in laptop and such, and I have it in my desktop, ehh. It's socket is FT3B (BGA-769). I wanted to buy the Hyper 212 EVO cooler for this PC.

The case is an okay size (16.5cm width), and there is loads of room. But I don't know what cooler can fit, can anyone recommend me a cooler for this.

Screw position distances 5cm square for heatsink attached to mobo (fan screwed onto heatsink)


Side view of heatsink/fan, absolutely tiny, and 16.5 cm case height


HP ProDesk 405 G2 Microtower PC datasheet:
http://h71016.www7.hp.com/html/pdfs/HP_ProDesk_405_G2_Microtower_PC_Datasheet.pdf

Thanks

Hello,

My suggestion is to leave it as it is; the CPU is soldered to the motherboard, and if you overtight the screws there is a good chance to crack some soldering balls and damage the system. Also, this is not a standard form factor for a CPU cooler, so you have some very limited cooler choices, a GPU cooler for example, but they came without a backplate and the retention screws will definitely not work with the existing backplate.

Why do you want to change the cooler, because of the noise or/and CPU temperature? The immediate solution is to reverse the back fan (set it as intake), it should make the system cooler/quieter.

 

[CloudStrife0]

Hello,

My suggestion is to leave it as it is; the CPU is soldered to the motherboard, and if you overtight the screws there is a good chance to crack some soldering balls and damage the system. Also, this is not a standard form factor for a CPU cooler, so you have some very limited cooler choices, a GPU cooler for example, but they came without a backplate and the retention screws will definitely not work with the existing backplate.

Why do you want to change the cooler, because of the noise or/and CPU temperature? The immediate solution is to reverse the back fan (set it as intake), it should make the system cooler/quieter.

It is currently set to intake on top of the heatsink.

I want to lower temps. I have a lot of room in the case. I want to place some big heatsink <16cm height on.
If you look at the image below, I can attach a new heatsink to the 5cm screw holes on the heatsink for the fans.

My idea was to essentially drill holes in a bracket like this, so I can fit the standard aftermarket coolers on.
Thinking on:
1. Do I add the bracket on the heatsink, or replace the stock heatsink and drill holds big enough for those larger screws.
2. Need a an okay heatsink/fan (£20/£30) with same moving bracket style or allows 5cmx5cm holes, <15cm height

Should ask this on overclock3d site as they deal much more with modding stuff?

 

[Cristi72]

I see you are quite determined to go for a better cooling solution. OK then, i respect that.

You must begin by checking in which state is the original thermal compound, so dismantle first the original cooler and put a good quality thermal compound (Arctic MX-2 or MX-4 as examples); being a HP, I wouldn't be surprised you'll find some sub-par thermal compound or even a thermal pad under the heatsink (I had a surprise once in finding an adhesive compound between the CPU and the heatsink; it was a laptop though).

If the temps are still high, let's find a decent heatsink. An 212 EVO will be too bulky/heavy, so you can go for the smaller Blizzard T2 or even an old SK775 Intel cooler with a copper slug (their brackets are much easier to modify); of course, any cooler of choice must be mounted on top of the original one.

The better solution is to get rid of the original cooler, but in this case CM coolers cannot be used (they use Direct Touch technology, which can be used only on the CPUs with heatspreader, and embedded APUs don't have a heatspreader; the differences can be seen here: http://us.hardware.info/news/35397/computex-amd-gives-first-demonstration-of-kaveri), and you'll need to modify the cooler's fins to fit the CPU surroundings.

I suggest you to modify a Zalman CNPS5X Performa, its base is slim enough to not interfere with any of the motherboard components.

For such endeavours, such as modifying an already custom cooling solution, having more opinions/ideas is the best, so don't hesitate asking on specialized sites.