News AMD allegedly readying new Ryzen 5 5600T and 5600XT CPUs — AM4 still stands strong after eight years

[Admin]

AMD is preparing to launch even more CPUs for the AM4 platform; the Ryzen 5 5600T and the Ryzen 5 5600XT.

AMD allegedly readying new Ryzen 5 5600T and 5600XT CPUs — AM4 still stands strong after eight years : Read more

 

[triplex1]

The same scenario every year, we collect money and after that we move on to the next generation again.

 

[oofdragon]

No tanks, there are loads of 5600X to buy cheap

 

[oofdragon]

AM4 is done AMD, wake up. You know what would be a very interesting processor? Sort of a 8600G X3D. Why didn't they do it yet???

 

[mitch074]

AM4 is done AMD, wake up. You know what would be a very interesting processor? Sort of a 8600G X3D. Why didn't they do it yet???

Probably because the X3D layer won't work on those chips that have integrated I/O instead of chiplets.

 

[SSGBryan]

AM4 is done AMD, wake up. You know what would be a very interesting processor? Sort of a 8600G X3D. Why didn't they do it yet???

Dr. Su disagrees with you.

Lots of people have no intention of moving to AM5 just yet.

As an example - for me to move to AM5 & stay on the same tier (MB, Ram, CPU), that is $1,000.

I am not paying $1,000 for less than a 20% performance bump.

 

[logainofhades]

Probably because the X3D layer won't work on those chips that have integrated I/O instead of chiplets.

While I don't know the layout of the chip, they have a mobile X3D chip, so they could do something like that with desktop too.

 

[Notton]

While I don't know the layout of the chip, they have a mobile X3D chip, so they could do something like that with desktop too.

7945HX3D is a chiplet design.
And AMD never released an 8-core X3D mobile.

 

[triplex1]

Dr. Su disagrees with you.

Lots of people have no intention of moving to AM5 just yet.

As an example - for me to move to AM5 & stay on the same tier (MB, Ram, CPU), that is $1,000.

I am not paying $1,000 for less than a 20% performance bump.

I have 3 computers with 5900x , 5700x and 3600xt , where should I go?
As you said very well, another $1,000 at least, I prefer to get a car

 

[logainofhades]

7945HX3D is a chiplet design.
And AMD never released an 8-core X3D mobile.

But they could is the point. They have just chosen not to.

 

[Ogotai]

id go to am5, but if i remember right... not enough pcie lanes.. or sata ports for my needs... the x570 and5900x fits what i need, id have to go to threadripper.. one comp i have is still x99 based.. cause of the pcie lanes

 

[King_V]

I often don't find myself surprised when people state that they're not moving on to the next generation platform, because their current system, at the final stage of the previous platform, is doing great.

Maybe I'm weird, but I really don't think that AM5's rather target audience is people on the 5000 series chips of AM4.

Hell, even recently, a friend looking for a new setup and looking at the 7800X3D, but who's on a budget restriction, I steered in the direction of going with a 5700X3D based system, as that'll give them more money to spend on the GPU. And really, do they need the absolute king of the hill gaming CPU? No, they can do just fine with the CPU that beats MOST others in gaming, they don't need the best of the best.

EDIT: correcting autocorrect, brain-farts, etc. Fixes in bold-italic

 

[usertests]

I often find myself surprised when people state that they're not moving on to the next generation platform, because their current system, at the final stage of the previous platform, is doing great.

Maybe I'm weird, but I really don't think that AM5's rather audience is people on the 5000 series chips of AM4.

Hell, even recently, a friend looking for a new setup and looking at the 7800X3D, but who's on a budget restriction, I steered in the direction of going with a 5700X3D based system, as that'll give them more money to spend on the GPU. And really, do they need the absolute king of the hill gaming CPU? No, they can do just fine with the CPU that beats MOST others in gaming, they don't need the best of the best.

Wait a second, you say it's weird, then you prove their point. So who is the audience for AM5?

 

[CelicaGT]

Considering that a cheap AM4 motherboard, cheap DDR4 and a cheap Zen 3 processor can provide potentially 90% of the gaming punch that a modern platform does it's no wonder it persists. The R 7 5X00X3D processors in particular are a ridiculous value, even today. Heck, the 5800X3D STILL outperforms the 9700X (And in a few specific instances, the 14900K) in several titles. And where it doesn't outperform, it's not far behind (4% slower on average according to HWU). Now that's not to say I'd recommend throwing money into new AM4 setup, but for some on a budget, it does make sense. With price unknown these particular chips may not be the best investment, but for some it may make sense. I speculate they'll live in the R3 bracket currently unserved by AM5 and will probably be used mostly by OEMs.

 

[tennis2]

5600X3D, 5600XT, 5600X, 5600T, 5600, 5600G.......

 

[pug_s]

Makes sense that AMD cranks out AM4 cpu's. Ryzen 5000 has a cheap 12nm IO die and a very small 7nm CCD that is easy to make. Not exactly leading edge compared to Ryzen 7000 and 9000 cpu's and could easily sell them in non-western countries. Global Foundaries and TSMC can crank out these chips for cheap considering that they have plenty of capacity for them.

 

[BadBoyGreek]

I often find myself surprised when people state that they're not moving on to the next generation platform, because their current system, at the final stage of the previous platform, is doing great.

Maybe I'm weird, but I really don't think that AM5's rather audience is people on the 5000 series chips of AM4.

Hell, even recently, a friend looking for a new setup and looking at the 7800X3D, but who's on a budget restriction, I steered in the direction of going with a 5700X3D based system, as that'll give them more money to spend on the GPU. And really, do they need the absolute king of the hill gaming CPU? No, they can do just fine with the CPU that beats MOST others in gaming, they don't need the best of the best.

There's really nothing to be surprised about. AM4 is still an excellent platform and the gen-on-gen gains between AM4 to AM5 aren't so significant as to make AM4 unviable. For the cost of a high end Ryzen 7000 or 9000 series CPU, one can build an entire AM4 based system with a top end X570 motherboard and use the money that would have been spent building the rest of an AM5 system on a better GPU.

Unless you're in absolute need of the slightly increased productivity gains on the newer platforms, AM4 is just fine for gaming and most productivity work, and will be for some time to come still.

 

[King_V]

Wait a second, you say it's weird, then you prove their point. So who is the audience for AM5?

There's really nothing to be surprised about....

Ugh, it was supposed to be "I don't find myself surprised.." so I'm either fumble-fingered or foggy-brained. And it was supposed to be "I don't think AM5's target audience..."

Still, AM4 does offer a cost savings for those who are doing a new (for them) platform. It's also EXTREMELY effective of an upgrade for those already on the AM4 platform.

To clarify, I really think AM5 is mostly geared toward either people who can easily splurge to have the latest and greatest, or to those who NEED that (work, development, etc), or, particularly, as an option for those making a big leap from an even older platform, such as pre-Ryzen, or pre-10th gen Intel.

 

[usertests]

Still, AM4 does offer a cost savings for those who are doing a new (for them) platform. It's also EXTREMELY effective of an upgrade for those already on the AM4 platform.

Tossing more AM4 chips into the world is good for the market, and it will help the often forgotten poorer countries that tend to have less supply and higher prices. Maybe the limiting factor will become motherboards which break more often, I don't know.

 

[BadBoyGreek]

To clarify, I really think AM5 is mostly geared toward either people who can easily splurge to have the latest and greatest, or to those who NEED that (work, development, etc), or, particularly, as an option for those making a big leap from an even older platform, such as pre-Ryzen, or pre-10th gen Intel.

That's more or less been the case with CPU platforms over the last 10 years. The industry hit a collective wall around that point where gen on gen gains weren't as significant as in the past and people were staying on platforms a lot longer. Nearly 20 years ago, Intel had predicted CPUs would have reached 10 GHz+ clock speeds by now, but they found the limits of physics to be a reality different from what they expected. It also didn't help that Intel stifled innovation for years while they were on top, and had AMD not come along with Ryzen when they did, the industry may have yet been further back still from where it is today.

Bleeding edge tech has always been, foremost, for the early adopters with pockets deep enough to afford it. But we're fortunate now that AMD made a huge comeback when they did to help spur innovation and provide a viable alternative to Chipzilla and bring competition back to the lower price points. It's great to see that now that they're on top, they're not doing what Intel did to try and force people onto the latest and greatest.