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Bman13

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I know this is debated a lot but I just would like to hear some opinions because I'm stuck in a pickle. Im building a gaming computer and almost every component picked out but I dont know if intel is worth the extra $100. Im using the computer for gaming, no editing or modeling. I've gone over what I want to spend already.

I'm down to,

CPU Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core $177.98
Motherboard MSI B85-G41 PC Mate ATX LGA1150 $79.19

vs

CPU AMD Athlon X4 760K 3.8GHz Quad-Core $80.99
CPU Cooler Rosewill RCX-Z1 57.2 CFM Ball Bearing $18.99
Motherboard ASRock FM2A88X Extreme4+ ATX FM2+ $60.99

convince me its worth the extra $100 for the intel or that I should save money because Im going to not notice any difference

Please help me
 
Gaming performance is almost entirely dependent on the GPU. However, obviously some CPUs provide better performance for the portion of gaming that does require the cpu and for that added dimension, some of the i5's beat or at least equal, anything available right now. When it comes to other computing tasks that are CPU dependent, not so much, but for gaming, you can do pretty much what you want with the i5.

The X4 isn't too bad either. So a lot depends on what card you plan to use. Depending on the card, a better CPU may not even be necessary much less beneficial. Also, if you do plan to go with the i5, it would make a lot of sense to go with the 4690 even though it's 50 bucks more than the 4460 as it's a much stronger performer in all aspects.

For you, if you have a card that the X4 won't bottleneck, the extra money probably wouldn't be worth it. If you have a very strong card, the i5 is probably a better choice, again, depending on what card and which i5.
 
Honestly, if the best gaming for the least money is what you're after, this would be a better option. If you added a 30 dollar 212 EVO CPU cooler you could even overclock it easily to 4.5Ghz and get the most out of pretty much any GPU card you choose. But even at stock clocks it will easily handle most cards and is a damn good all around choice period, for the money.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($169.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $244.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-07 01:14 EDT-0400
 


The Athlon is very likely to bottleneck whereas the 4460 will be quite balanced with the 270X. Every bit worth the 4460.
 
Nonsense. Either of those CPUs will run that card but the i5 will be a much better performer as will the FX. The more important issue is what PSU brand and model you have. Quality and reliability of the PSU, which are always important, become even more so when you factor in overclocking or discrete graphics cards.
 


See the CPU performance analysis of recent games like watch dogs. Athlon to i5 gives a lot more performance than any other jump!
 
The i5, because its a lot better and will be a top tier CPU for a long time ( the athlon wasnt top tier even when it was new). This means you can pretty much pair any graphics card with it and get maximum performance.
 
Nobody is saying the I5 isn't superior, of course it is, but the Athlon will play ball with that GPU and is plenty powerful enough to not hold it back. Plus, as I indicated, if he's moving from a low end CPU and probably integrated graphics, he's more likely than not got a cheap off brand PSU that isn't going to carry it's weight with a much higher tier CPU and a discrete GPU. Even getting the best Intel CPU and GPU made isn't going to do him any good if he can't use them because the PSU was a POS and crapped out. It's probably a good idea to know he's got a PSU that's even capable of using that hardware before going any further.
 
The Intel option is not too bad. The 4460 will do games very well, and the motherboard will give you what you need. But at a combined $257, It is quite Pricey.

As for the AMD Option, There are better choices. For the CPU, go for the new Athlon X4 860K. Sure, you lose .1 Ghz in clock speed, but the performance is much improved in the new 860K.

860K Vs. 760K Comparison:
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For the Motherboard, I would go for a MSI A78M-E45. You get SATA6 gb/s ports, a USB 3.0 Header, and 4 Memory Slots that support up to 2133 Mhz RAM. Plus, it's $65 flat out. The ASRock motherboard is $60 because it was cut to $75 and then the mail-in rebate would lower it to $60.

Lastly, There's better CPU Coolers than the Rosewill RCX-Z1. For about $20, you can get the Cooler Master Hyper TX3, Which will cool your CPU Greatly over the Rosewill.

So, The Modifications I made to your AMD parts are:
CPU: AMD Athlon X4 860K ($84.00 Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper TX3 ($20 Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI A78M-E45 ($67.99 Amazon)
Total for all 3 AMD Parts: $172.

In conclusion: While the Intel Build is Good, and will play almost every game no problem with the right graphics card, the 860K Parts I gave you will be a Massive bang for your Buck. You save $85, which can go toward a better graphics card. Trust me, This 860K will rock a lot of games when hooked up with a R9 270X or higher Radeon graphics card.
 
Everybody take 5, the experts have arrived. That's sarcasm son. Just FYI.

To the OP, PSU, then upgrade. Unless you've already got a capable PSU. Once again, none of those recommendations amount to anything, at all, if they can't be utilized or you toast your hardware because of a poor quality PSU. If you show that you already have, or have picked out, a satisfactory PSU, then by all means, get the i5 and as Soundfx expertly noted, if you go with a configuration that requires you to get an aftermarket fan, you don't want that one. I wouldn't recommend anything LESS than a Hyper 212 EVO and preferably something better if you have plans to overclock or even run the CPU at high loads for long periods on the stock clock.

BTW, just kidding about that first part.
 
What games do you play OP? If you're playing any large multiplayer games, the Athlon will seriously disappoint you. The i5 is a top tier gaming CPU, while the X4 760k is about equivalent to the old Core2Quads. If all you play is stuff like LoL and/or indie games, you could probably get away with the Athlon, but for anything serious you'll want the i5.
 


Yeah you won't be happy with the performance of the X4 in CS or COD, especially if you're trying to play the latest iterations. Remeber, performance originates with the CPU. That's what governs your FPS. The GPU just determines visual quality, and that can always be adjusted for better performance. If you have a low-end CPU, there's nothing you can adjust to increase your framerate.
 
Here is the build you sent me followed by what I think will be a much better build, for less money. Better board, much better and bigger monitor with a far faster response time. Better PSU, the Corsair CX series is borderline.

Faster memory. Overall, probably a little more reliable, a little faster and a little cheaper. If the keyboard and mouse are a concern, you can swap them out, or upgrade later. I think the changes seen here are of higher concern than those are. Plus, the CM gaming bundle is ok as an entry level budget starter kit.

Also, the mail in rebates are not reflected in the price below. After rebates, the total is 853.69.


Your build:


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($177.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI B85-G41 PC Mate ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($79.19 @ Amazon)
Memory: Team Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($68.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus Radeon R9 270X 4GB DirectCU II Video Card ($213.89 @ Amazon)
Case: Azza CSAZ-206 ATX Mid Tower Case ($45.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer ($13.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Gateway KX2153 Abd 60Hz 21.5" Monitor ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Keyboard: Razer Blackwidow Tournament Edition Wired Gaming Keyboard ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Mouse: Razer Abyssus Mirror Special Edition Wired Optical Mouse ($29.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $914.97
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-08 00:53 EDT-0400



Revised build:


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($177.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97-D3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($118.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($73.80 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($53.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 270X 2GB Double Dissipation Video Card ($164.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Azza CSAZ-206 ATX Mid Tower Case ($45.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX TS 550W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer ($13.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: BenQ GL2460HM 60Hz 24.0" Monitor ($149.00 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: Cooler Master CM Storm Devastator Gaming Bundle Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse ($29.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $888.70
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-08 00:52 EDT-0400

 
Are you talking about the build listed as Your build, or the one listed as Revised build? If you're talking about your build, I already addressed what I thought needed to be changed or would be better parts. Your build will work too, but you're paying more for less. The 2GB does make some difference, but the price difference between a 2GB and 4GB card is questionable. If you're going to pay that much more, I'd just go with a 280
 
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($177.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97-D3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($118.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($73.80 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($53.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 280 3GB DUAL-X Video Card ($189.30 @ Newegg)
Case: Azza CSAZ-206 ATX Mid Tower Case ($30.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX TS 550W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer ($13.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: BenQ GL2460HM 60Hz 24.0" Monitor ($149.99 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: Cooler Master CM Storm Devastator Gaming Bundle Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse ($28.06 @ NCIX US)
Total: $897.06
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-08 23:14 EDT-0400


The 4GB Cards have the ability to utilise up to 3.8Gb of it's vram, but the issue is by the time it does use it, the core is already struggling, so the vram offers no performance benefit, unless you decide to crossfire later on. The world of crossfire works like this 2+2=2GB, 4+4=4GB.

As for the Question, the R9 280 is the best choice of GPU.
 
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