AMD Announcing A-Series, FX-Series in June

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[citation][nom]bobdozer[/nom]Intel is about to get Athlon'd.[/citation]
I'm not holding my breath. Going to take a lot for Intel to be overrun by AMD. I will say that I do think the Fusion platform has a chance to destroy Intel in the mobile markets, only time will tell.

But, being the AMD fan I am, can't help but get excited.
 
AMD is not interested in over running Intel in the high end desktop market, that is the LAST thing on AMD's mind, so it doesn't need to be faster than Sandy Bridge contrary to what all you fanboys think.
AMD is over running Intel and Nvidia in lots of other markets, namely over 60% of the mobile graphics market, the discrete graphics market and now APU's.
 
[citation][nom]GeekApproved[/nom]AMD is not interested in over running Intel in the high end desktop market, that is the LAST thing on AMD's mind, so it doesn't need to be faster than Sandy Bridge contrary to what all you fanboys think.AMD is over running Intel and Nvidia in lots of other markets, namely over 60% of the mobile graphics market, the discrete graphics market and now APU's.[/citation]

Well...there are no benches for bulldozer yet and this is the first complete design overhaul of amd's processors since athlon.

However, I will not have my expectations too high to avoid being disappointed :)
 
Assuming that Bulldozer is anywhere even close to Sandy Bridge in performance I will probably buy a Bulldozer CPU to support them and competition in the CPU market. Even if all AMD does is kick Intel into gear then they are doing their job perfectly.

Of course, I'm still holding out hope that it beats SB but we'll have to wait and see on that.
 
@Ragnar, I'm kind of thinking the same way. It would be tough for AMD to kick Intel. And if they do, you would think Ivy Bridge and LGA 2011 would come in to rain on BD's party.
 
From everything that I've read, this is not the Bulldozer platform. This uses the current architecture with optimizations and an integrated APU. I like AMD and would be glad to be proved wrong.
 
Just to remind you though, if Bulldozer does in fact kick some S-B bum, expect to pay for it. If it doesn't but still fares up well to them, then they will be competitively priced.

Every time those companies know they have the advantage over the competition, they price their top end as they please, because they know that people wanting the best will pay for it. Remember the old FX series? Seen the price on Gulftowns? Now consider what the price of an AMD hexcore is right now and then what it would be if it were putting out just as much as a Gulftown...

Just saying, most of us have come to just love AMD for the immense value for our money, but rolling back a few years reminds me of paying out the bum for the good stuff... Just like Intel has been doing to its fan boys the past 2-3 years lol. 1000$ for a cpu that does roughly 15% better than it's 300$ counterparts yep yep derp where do I sign?
 
Computex on June 1 (Asia) till AMD 2011 CLE @ 14 June (Rest of the World) is a really long gap for product announcements.
An even wider gap between the Sabine launch June 12 in Asia and June 28th for ROW.
Anyone else think AMD is trying to own the month of June?
 
If Bulldozer is within striking distance of Sandy Bridge, then it can be considered nothing other than a massive accomplishment for AMD. With a microscopic R&D budget compared to Intel, combined with the questionable business ethics that have forced Intel to shell out billions worldwide in anti-competitive trials, it's amazing that AMD is still in the game. There is no point in choosing sides in this battle. If you love technology, and you want to the industry to keep moving forward at a blistering pace, then you need to love a good fight between AMD and Intel. I still fail to understand people who back one side or the other as if they have some sort of vested interested in Intel/AMD.
 
[citation][nom]GeekApproved[/nom]AMD is not interested in over running Intel in the high end desktop market, that is the LAST thing on AMD's mind, so it doesn't need to be faster than Sandy Bridge contrary to what all you fanboys think.AMD is over running Intel and Nvidia in lots of other markets, namely over 60% of the mobile graphics market, the discrete graphics market and now APU's.[/citation]

High end desktop last on amd mind? LOL,that would be suicidal for them.Fact is,they cant make high end cpu,amd 6core barely stand chance against intels 4cores,so...
And with BD amd clearly trying for high end.And amd dead serious about it.Sad part,they probably wont succeed.Again.
As for other markets - servers market is Intels completely,discrete graphics about equal with NV (you said over running LOL - get facts at least)professional graphics is completely NV also.
APU's - one product from amd and you saying they owning market? Wait until Intel and NV release they APU's (actualy NV product already much better than amd - google it)
And talking about fanboys..i like amd fanboys optimism 😀
 
No it's not, they are not interested in that. High end desktop is a very small market. Integrated graphics and apu's are a huge and fast growing market. This is where AMD has been putting ALL it's R&D.
AMD has not competed in the high end desktop market for over 10 YEARS, they have always been #2 (except a short stint in 2006) and very happy to be #2.

It's not suicidial, it's smart. Don't put all your R&D into trying to beat Intel in the small market that high end desktop cpu's are.
 

I agree..
 
[citation][nom]netadmin[/nom]Again, Llano != Bulldozerhttp://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/c [...] -details/2Based on the above, Llano = Phenom II + enhancements (??) + GPU. So forget about competing with Sandy Bridge.[/citation]

The A-Series is Llano, the FX-Series is Bulldozer. Two different chips are coming. The FX-Series will not initially have any integrated GPU Fusion chip. However, as for Llano being uncompetitive with Sandy Bridge, it comes down to usage. In multi-media/gaming endeavors, there is a video of Llano destroying Sandy Bridge. If you are talking high intensity calculations, like CPU based video transcoding or massive spreadsheets, Sandy Bridge would be more suitable probably.

But in a highly threaded computation load, Bulldozer would probably beat sandybridge if the applciation can leverage that many threads. But software using that many threads is probably unlikely.

I think Bulldozer will have a more interesting showing in the server market than the desktop, but I'll probably grab a 6 or 8 core bulldozer in a while.
 

AMD/ATi are good in professional graphics and I have an Eyefinity set-up but,,,, I will always be a nVidia man...
 
I do not see the need for me personally for anything more than a quad core cpu...
at least right now and in the near future.
I never looked at 1055T or 1090T, none of those.
if someone would give me a Intel i7-980x or better then I will definitely take it... 😀
my current i5-760 @ 3.4GHz kicks-ass and prevents me from going to a i5-2500K, I can wait for Ivy if I'm to do another Intel build.
it's my AMD units (AM2+) that have me waiting for Bulldozer benches..
 

It doesn't matter how many cores a CPU has. What it does matter is the PERFORMANCE! It would be still a failure for AMD even if they offered 100-core CPU that has worse performance than quad core Intel.

As regard of the CP (cost-performance) ratio, no one forced you to buy the insanely expensive "EXTREME" edition Intel! You can choose an i5-750 instead; an OCed i5-750 (which is a quad core CPU) can easily wipe out any OCed hexcore AMD that is more expensive.

Should I remind you how AMD ripped you off when they were superior than Intel (Pentium D) back in 2005? AMD IS MUCH CHEAPER AT THE MOMENT SIMPLY BECAUSE IT IS MUCH WORSE THAN INTEL AT THE MOMENT.
 
[citation][nom]andy5174[/nom]AMD IS MUCH CHEAPER AT THE MOMENT SIMPLY BECAUSE IT IS MUCH WORSE THAN INTEL AT THE MOMENT.[/citation]

Not quite, if you look around some price segments, you'll find that Intel and AMD are quite "even". The Athlon II X4 (or Phenom II X2) vs Core i3 is pretty much what I'm talking about. Full system price (RAM, CPU, MoBo being the different pieces) are about even in P/P ratios, so the deal breaker is core number vs single core perf (and remember Core i3s are around 2.4Ghz with no Turbo Boost, so Athlon IIs run quite near them around 2.9Ghz). Plus the other "goodies" you might want in the lower tier. In the Mid tier, unless u're worried about power usage or 3x SLI/XFire, they're also even (not thinking about OC, just regular joe).

Don't have "hard data" to show ATM though, sorry.

Now, upper segment and CPUs alone, pretty much Intel is king. And yes, I remember the butt rape AMD gave with the Athlon64 X2's; the Toledo build cost me an arm xD

Cheers!
 
YES!!!- FINALLY SOME COMPETITION!!! This really isn't too far away either which is nice. It will be interesting to see if Bulldozer can meet the first-gen i7s or if I may dream have a product that actually beats the 2600. Ahh... so much for dreaming. P.S. Andy5174- charging $1000 for a CPU is just pain rediculous no matter how good it is... sure if I was a tech company I would do it, but to say AMD only does the overcharging is a bit one-sided.
 
No word on the Interlagos release date ? 🙁
All those integer pipelines should produce some sweet chess especially on a duel socket 32-thread, 128-integer pipeline monster. Quad socked sadly out of my budget for sure...thanks Microsoft. Couldn't make Windows 7 work on 4-socket...why? Silly question...greed...of course.

You will never hear of another human vs computer chess match. No one is that much of a glutton for humiliation. Things are at 3300Elo now. Top human 2800Elo. 200Elo difference produces on average 3-1. The monster should be at like 3500Elo. That is 800Elo difference, or 99-1 of the machine winning each game against the strongest human in the world. http://www.pradu.us/old/Nov27_2008/Buzz/elotable.html

You might as well get on your jogging shoes and race a top fuel dragster and choke on some fumes.
 
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