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It will be very interesting to see how this new series performs, with Ray Tracing on.
yes, because its important to put up an artificial barrier to performance for a grand total of 4 games anyone plays with ray tracing on, that they can actually tell it's on.

all ray tracing is, is physx version 2. there were free software solutions that did this. nvidia took one, made some specialized hardware to encode the software solution and new software to interpret it and sell it back to people and make an artificial barrier for competition to make the sheep who have elevated nvidia to a status symbol in thier head feel better about paying 20% more for the same raster performance as team red.

in another 3 years they'll have a new tech doing the same thing. stuff that was done just fine with free software, that they'll turn into a quasi hardware solution and sell back to devs in their dev tools so the devs get a less functional version of what they already were using...
 
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yes, because its important to put up an artificial barrier to performance for a grand total of 4 games anyone plays with ray tracing on, that they can actually tell it's on.

all ray tracing is, is physx version 2. there were free software solutions that did this. nvidia took one, made some specialized hardware to encode the software solution and new software to interpret it and sell it back to people and make an artificial barrier for competition to make the sheep who have elevated nvidia to a status symbol in thier head feel better about paying 20% more for the same raster performance as team red.

in another 3 years they'll have a new tech doing the same thing. stuff that was done just fine with free software, that they'll turn into a quasi hardware solution and sell back to devs in their dev tools so the devs get a less functional version of what they already were using...

You don't seem to understand that RT is coming whether you like it or not. Developers will be using the technology as the standard so they can stop using baked in lighting and shadows which takes up a lot of time.

It may not be for maybe two or more GPU generations, but RT will eventually become the standard lighting with no option to turn it off.

Due to the lack of hardware that can run full RT at satisfactory framerates, developers are left to just halfway implement RT which many times doesn't improve graphics to a noticeable extent.

Scream all you want about how RT doesn't make a difference, you will eventually see it no different than any other technology that has been implemented and become standard over the past 30 years.
 
You don't seem to understand that RT is coming whether you like it or not. Developers will be using the technology as the standard so they can stop using baked in lighting and shadows which takes up a lot of time.

It may not be for maybe two or more GPU generations, but RT will eventually become the standard lighting with no option to turn it off.

Due to the lack of hardware that can run full RT at satisfactory framerates, developers are left to just halfway implement RT which many times doesn't improve graphics to a noticeable extent.

Scream all you want about how RT doesn't make a difference, you will eventually see it no different than any other technology that has been implemented and become standard over the past 30 years.
Sure it's coming....one day. But not this gen and it certainly will not be the default for games for a long time to come. So yeah it is a stupid comparison to use as it currently is bad on both nvidia and amd, yes amd is worse.
 
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this amd gpu launch is a mess....and leaving it up to AIB's means like se seeing on green there wont be any near msrp gpu's. (they know hot items and will scalp price from the start)
Personally I think they may have played a blinder by waiting on Nvidia to mess up first, seeing the pricing and performance and then (hopefully) springing a nice surprise!

Not long to wait now... but at least we know there is plenty of stock at retailers already and more piled up in warehouses ready to ship, unlike Nvidia...
 
You don't seem to understand that RT is coming whether you like it or not. Developers will be using the technology as the standard so they can stop using baked in lighting and shadows which takes up a lot of time.

It may not be for maybe two or more GPU generations, but RT will eventually become the standard lighting with no option to turn it off.

Due to the lack of hardware that can run full RT at satisfactory framerates, developers are left to just halfway implement RT which many times doesn't improve graphics to a noticeable extent.

Scream all you want about how RT doesn't make a difference, you will eventually see it no different than any other technology that has been implemented and become standard over the past 30 years.
They will need time. They are a few years back, and don't have the foresight to see beyond their own boot. No doubt it is right there though with new releases. The pattern is apparent, to those who can see a pattern.
 
Personally I think they may have played a blinder by waiting on Nvidia to mess up first, seeing the pricing and performance and then (hopefully) springing a nice surprise!

Not long to wait now... but at least we know there is plenty of stock at retailers already and more piled up in warehouses ready to ship, unlike Nvidia...
As much as I hope for the surprise part, I am more inclined to them going: O, now we can slap extra $100 on the MSRP.
 
You don't seem to understand that RT is coming whether you like it or not. Developers will be using the technology as the standard so they can stop using baked in lighting and shadows which takes up a lot of time.

It may not be for maybe two or more GPU generations, but RT will eventually become the standard lighting with no option to turn it off.

Due to the lack of hardware that can run full RT at satisfactory framerates, developers are left to just halfway implement RT which many times doesn't improve graphics to a noticeable extent.

Scream all you want about how RT doesn't make a difference, you will eventually see it no different than any other technology that has been implemented and become standard over the past 30 years.
So RTX 2080Ti launched 20.09.2018 and present RT raw performance is still terrible. Unfortunately for now the future is in fake frames full of graphic artifacts.