[SOLVED] Amd apu questions for new semi budget build.

[Bloodredz]

I'm thinking about a new pc build on a $500 or less budget with Amd apu. Most of what I do is web based with Facebook and their games & YouTube. I really don't think I need a decaited gpu as I'm not playing games per say.
Indiana, USA

 

[WildCard999]

I would get these parts...

PCPartPicker Part List
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3400G 3.7 GHz Quad-Core Processor ($147.00 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($75.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial P1 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($66.98 @ Amazon)
Total: $289.97
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-02-16 13:46 EST-0500

With this Deskmini (Case/MB/PSU).

https://www.newegg.com/asrock-deskmini-a300w/p/N82E16856158064

Total: $439.96

This build should be plenty for your uses and if needed you could swap the 500gb SSD for a 1TB and still be within your budget.

 

[Archibald_]

Here is my 2 cents. Kept things economical but with quality components. With the price/budget gap you could easily make some upgrades.

1. The cpu to the 3400G as WildCard999 suggested. It gives you a little faster processor and better gpu.
2. The HDD to a SSD. The trade off is storage space for speed but you could go with a SSD as a boot drive and a HDD for storage like I am doing. If 500 GB is enough go with the SSD.

If you need a cd drive neither case would work. Also, there is the cost of the OS if you need it.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 3 3200G 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor ($94.56 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock B450M/AC Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($47.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($53.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Phanteks P300 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CXM (2015) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $381.50
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-02-16 20:28 EST-0500

 

[Bloodredz]

I currently have a 1 tb 7200rpm drive so won't need it but I'm hearing a lot about the ssd for speed.

Just curious question, what is the difference on the ryzen series. I'm still new to the oem/new market.

 

[MADLAD49]

idk what facebook games are, but it sounds like you'd be fine using a 2200g for your apu, but if you want the better preformance a 3400g will still fit withing 500 dollars, other than that 8gb of ram and a decent 450 watt psu should be fine, here's an old part list i had already made which seems like it should be good.

PCPartPicker Part List

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | AMD Ryzen 3 2200G 3.5 GHz Quad-Core Processor | $105.39 @ Amazon
Motherboard | ASRock B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard | $74.98 @ Amazon
Memory | Corsair Vengeance LPX 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory | $44.99 @ Amazon
Storage | Corsair MP510 240 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive | $52.99 @ Corsair
Case | Corsair Carbide 175R RGB ATX Mid Tower Case | $53.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply | Corsair CX (2017) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply | $58.98 @ Newegg
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total (before mail-in rebates) | $401.31
| Mail-in rebates | -$10.00
| Total | $391.31
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-02-17 22:47 EST-0500 |
ssd isn't necessary, your hdd should be fine, but if you want faster startup and load speeds, then go with an sdd.

 

[86zx]

Facebook games are essentially flash games. So honestly can get away with a pentium 4 and a Nvidia GeForce 4 ti. If I were you I’d either ask some family members if they are willing to give or sell you a pc or get a older office pc off of eBay like a dell optiplex 3020. They go for cheap and should be more than enough for what you need

 

[Archibald_]

You basically have two choices with the current Ryzen apus which are the 3200g or the 3400g. The 3200g has the Vega 8 GPU and the 3400g has the Vega 11 GPU. The speed difference between the two is around 3%-4% with the Vega 11 giving you a bump in graphics as well. The price difference is $50. The 3200g should easily handle your needs you provided us.

I would pass on the 2200g which is the previous generation of the 3200g because as you can see above it is $10 more.

Since you already have a drive your new cost would be around $330 for a shiny new warrantied computer that no one has sneezed on, coughed on, used as a coaster or a plate, or has a dust bunny village living inside.

86zx has a good idea of asking family members or friends if they have a slightly older system they want to get rid of. It would allow you to test it out to see if it works for you. Just keep in mind if buying it how it compares to a new one.

 

[WildCard999]

I currently have a 1 tb 7200rpm drive so won't need it but I'm hearing a lot about the ssd for speed.

Just curious question, what is the difference on the ryzen series. I'm still new to the oem/new market.

The G series (2200G,2400G,3200G,3400G,etc) have a built in iGPU so no dedicated GPU is required. The other ones do not have a iGPU so a dedicated GPU is required to have a display. For your uses 4 cores/8 threads is plenty and the iGPU (Vega 11) on the 3400G performs close to the GT 1030 2gb so for flash style games it's more then enough.

 

[Bloodredz]

You basically have two choices with the current Ryzen apus which are the 3200g or the 3400g. The 3200g has the Vega 8 GPU and the 3400g has the Vega 11 GPU. The speed difference between the two is around 3%-4% with the Vega 11 giving you a bump in graphics as well. The price difference is $50. The 3200g should easily handle your needs you provided us.

I would pass on the 2200g which is the previous generation of the 3200g because as you can see above it is $10 more.

Since you already have a drive your new cost would be around $330 for a shiny new warrantied computer that no one has sneezed on, coughed on, used as a coaster or a plate, or has a dust bunny village living inside.

86zx has a good idea of asking family members or friends if they have a slightly older system they want to get rid of. It would allow you to test it out to see if it works for you. Just keep in mind if buying it how it compares to a new one.

Thank you. I understand the basics but the explanation you given definitely clears up some thoughts on my part

 

[logainofhades]

Not a huge fan, of the APU's, as they use system memory, in order to run. Just slightly over $500. A320 is fine here, as you won't be overclocking anyway.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor ($119.97 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI A320M-A PRO MAX Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($54.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($73.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN550 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GT 1030 2 GB Low Profile Video Card ($84.49 @ B&H)
Case: Thermaltake Versa H15 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($44.99 @ Walmart)
Power Supply: Corsair CXM (2015) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply ($58.54 @ Amazon)
Total: $501.96
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-02-18 09:54 EST-0500

If you really want an APU.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3400G 3.7 GHz Quad-Core Processor ($147.00 @ B&H)
Motherboard: MSI A320M-A PRO MAX Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($54.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($73.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN550 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Thermaltake Versa H15 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($44.99 @ Walmart)
Power Supply: Corsair CXM (2015) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply ($58.54 @ Amazon)
Total: $444.50
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-02-18 09:56 EST-0500

 

[Bloodredz]

Had an older dell, not sure of model or specs, but it finally gave up the ghost last week. Using an older hp that runs slow so that's what has been pushing me to buy new one but wanna try my hand at building also.

 

[WildCard999]

Had an older dell, not sure of model or specs, but it finally gave up the ghost last week. Using an older hp that runs slow so that's what has been pushing me to buy new one but wanna try my hand at building also.

Putting a budget SSD into a older laptop can breath some new life into it. I had a old HP laptop (T6400/4gb ram/GT 9800M) that I replaced the HDD with a Sandisk 240gb SSD Plus with a clean install of Windows 10. From there the system ran great considering how outdated the parts were.

 

[Bloodredz]

I cant clome the hdd at this time. It's underpowered and barely hanging onto life hence the reason I want to upgrade/build new.