AMD BULLDOZER HELP

jfly604

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I'm purchasing a laptop http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/asus-asus-essentio-cm1855-desktop-computer-amd-fx-8120-1tb-hdd-10gb-ram-windows-8-cm1855-ca003s/10228337.aspx?path=e1d6841fa6a9814046d82489a3c0b7aeen02 in a few days its a insane price for the spec but one thing I'm worried about is the cpu i've heard some pretty bad things about it. can someone clarify just how bad it is? can I stick a 7870 in here and the cpu would bottleneck it?


Also... how good of a desktop is this for it's price?

ps: If anyone wants to do some looking around on the futureshop website for a better desktop then this in the 500-700 be my guest :sol:
 
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It really depends on your monitor, since its really old I should think it is of low resolution, so you should be able to almost max out BF3.

But once you upgrade the screen that will not be the case.

NEVER buy prebuilt systems in my opinion, I can garentee you that you would need to replace the PSU in that system before you could run an HD7870 with it.
I can almost also garentee you that building it yourself will be cheaper.
You also have longer warranties on custom built PC.
You know of what quality the parts are in the PC.
The 8150 is made for OCing, you will probably not be able to do that on a prebuilt system(will be BIOS locked and insufficient PSU).
Compatibility issues with chassis, PSU and GPU are ALWAYS in issue with prebuilt system and they NEVER have adequate cooling.

What is your budget for a system?

Use the below template and I will compile something for you.
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/353572-31-build-upgrade-advice

One more thing to keep in mind, if you go the AMD route I would suggest not going for Bulldozer. They are not gaming CPUs. Either Piledriver or much better Intel.
 

jfly604

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Approximate Purchase Date: Within the next month.

Budget Range:600-700$CA

System Usage from Most to Least Important:Gaming is the most important.

Are you buying a monitor:No, Have one.

Parts to Upgrade:Most likely building it from the ground up.

Do you need to buy OS: No.

Preferred Website(s) for Parts:I have 150$ in gift cards for FutureShop so for one of the items or a couple from there, the rest wherever.

Location:British Columbia, Canada.

Parts Preferences: Doesn't matter to me, Whichever fits in the budget.

Overclocking:Yes

SLI or Crossfire:Maybe in the future.

Your Monitor Resolution:Honestly not sure anyone, its fairly old.

Additional Comments: ---------------------------

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: Don't currently own a decent desktop.
 

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Also, I've never built a desktop in my life. I mean I have common sense and I know how to search youtube.. the only part that seemed a bit sketchy was the heatsink and all that with the thermal paste ? how hard is it on a scale of 1-10 :p thanks for all you're help an
 


Is your budget including the gift card or excluding it?

I would say its about a 4 at most. Its actually very simple these days.
http://techreport.com/review/23624/how-to-build-a-pc-the-tech-report-guide

There is a guide with clear videos and stuff.

Just takes some patients.
 

jfly604

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No, haven't purchased it. I was just planning on upgrading the 7670m to the 7870 if it was compatible.

Pick whichever is the best bang for my buck it was just an idea.
 


The link you posted is not a laptop and neither does it have HD7870m graphics...
 
Reliable motherboard but not the best OC, your budget is tight.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157280
85

CPU.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113285
180

A nice reliable, stable and modular power supply.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151093
80

A nice case :
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139011
80

Hdd
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148840
80

RAM, 8GB is over enough and will be fater than 10 because it runs in duel channel.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233186
46

DVD drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136259
18

This comes to a total of 569 without gift card use.
This system is BETTER and CHEAPER than the one you saw. But since you don't have graphics on either of the two you will either need a bigger budget or you could go intel and have integrated graphics that suck anyway..

Use the gift card for a better screen. Thats all futureshop is good for it seems.

http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/samsung-samsung-23-widescreen-led-monitor-with-5ms-response-time-s23b300b-s23b300b/10193159.aspx?path=6427aa81a88899e138ba4d10ef345291en02
 

jfly604

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I know, I was just saying that the desktop I had in that link came with 7670m 2gb gpu and I was planning on swapping it out for a 7870m. Im not very knowledgable so sorry if I dont know what im talking about :p
 


7670 is a horrid graphics card.

The HD7770 is the minimum I would suggest.

So the system I suggested plus the HD7750 or HD7770 still comes in under your budget and is much better than the one you linked...
 

jfly604

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Awsome thanks for all you're help man it saved me from probably a big mistake. I think ill go with the 7770 since it's right around my budget. thanks for taking the time to help. Would you happen to know what settings I would be able to play BF3 and other demandings games on with this rig + the 7770??
 


It really depends on your monitor, since its really old I should think it is of low resolution, so you should be able to almost max out BF3.

But once you upgrade the screen that will not be the case.

 
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