News AMD claims the Ryzen AI 9 HX 370 is 75% faster than Intel's Core Ultra 7 258V in gaming

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They're taking a page straight from Nvidia's playbook (using DLSS and FG to claim xx% more performance vs competition). HYPR-RX is obviously used in games without native FSR3 FG and some people find it useful.

Although in Nvidia's case, it's vendor-locked tech. FSR3 FG works on many GPUs (minus driver-level HYPR-RX). It's weird. I don't like it when Nvidia does it because it obfuscates native performance, so same feeling here.
 

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Both can use Lossless Scaling which generates even more fake frames. Not very honest to have an official comparison just have one side use frame gen when both can.

Edit: Since AMD is being lopsided with frame gen, are they also being lopsided with power consumption?
Is this a 28w vs 17w comparison?
 
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When you're playing a game, no one cares HOW they got their FPS, they only cared THAT they got it. End results matter, theoreticals don't.
 
I'm getting really tired of AMD's shoddy marketing. They make good products, aside from the name the 370 is a great product, but lately have insisted on these completely irrational marketing takes.

Frame Generation is basically the most dishonest thing that can be added to any benchmark. Input latency is just as important as visual frame rate (especially at lower frame rates) and FG just obfuscates it entirely. While I don't think using upscaling in benchmarks is good that is at least real performance gained while sacrificing image quality.
 
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I'm getting really tired of AMD's shoddy marketing. They make good products, aside from the name the 370 is a great product, but lately have insisted on these completely irrational marketing takes.

Frame Generation is basically the most dishonest thing that can be added to any benchmark. Input latency is just as important as visual frame rate (especially at lower frame rates) and FG just obfuscates it entirely. While I don't think using upscaling in benchmarks is good that is at least real performance gained while sacrificing image quality.
Nvidia started it, but at least they used it to compare with their own products. Amd took it a step further 😁
 

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"XeSS doesn't have any type of frame generation functionality"

So technically AMD is still faster pushing more frames even if a portion of them are fake frames. Intel isn't competitive without a similar function to offer.
 
"XeSS doesn't have any type of frame generation functionality"

So technically AMD is still faster pushing more frames even if a portion of them are fake frames. Intel isn't competitive without a similar function to offer.
This technicality doesn't matter when the experience is bad. Best case scenario the input lag is as bad as the non-FG frame rate.

AMD's FG is also GPU agnostic.
 
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A blog post from AMD is advertising a 75% performance advantage in gaming benchmarks of its Ryzen AI 9 HX 370 against Intel's Core Ultra 7 258V.

AMD claims the Ryzen AI 9 HX 370 is 75% faster than Intel's Core Ultra 7 258V in gaming : Read more
And being TomsHardware, it is always incredibly important to show Intel winning, no matter what 🤦‍♂️

It's been this way since the site first started.

Regardless, it's a very good thing that IGPs are getting better. I just wish they were getting better, faster.