News AMD confirms Ryzen 7 9800X3D stock will improve soon — chipmaker says more processors are being shipped weekly

[Admin]

AMD is rushing to bring more 9800X3D on store shelves this quarter.

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[FunSurfer]

I don't understand AMD, wasting time and resources with making a lot of Ryzen 9600 and 9700 CPUs that are sitting idle on stores' shelves and not enough of 9800X3D that everybody and his wife wants. They should have made less of the non X3D variants so there will be a shortage of those so their price will go up and more of 9800X3D to begin with so they will sell more units, a win-win situation.
By the way, anybody knows if 9800X3D will support Windows 12?

 

[USAFRet]

By the way, anybody knows if 9800X3D will support Windows 12?

Seeing as the requirements and restrictions for "Windows 12" are completely unknown so far....

 

[Notton]

making a lot of Ryzen 9600

That's the 6-core binning because they're defective 9700/9800 chips.
Are you saying you want AMD to pull an Intel and aggressively bin poor quality chips into a higher tier?

 

[aberkae]

I don't understand AMD, wasting time and resources with making a lot of Ryzen 9600 and 9700 CPUs that are sitting idle on stores' shelves and not enough of 9800X3D that everybody and his wife wants. They should have made less of the non X3D variants so there will be a shortage of those so their price will go up and more of 9800X3D to begin with so they will sell more units, a win-win situation.
By the way, anybody knows if 9800X3D will support Windows 12?

So they can place them in the 9900xd and 9950X3D. They are the currently AMD's version of the e cores that scales from very efficient to power hungry with minimal gains.

 

[stuff and nonesense]

I don't understand AMD, wasting time and resources with making a lot of Ryzen 9600 and 9700 CPUs that are sitting idle on stores' shelves and not enough of 9800X3D that everybody and his wife wants. They should have made less of the non X3D variants so there will be a shortage of those so their price will go up and more of 9800X3D to begin with so they will sell more units, a win-win situation.
By the way, anybody knows if 9800X3D will support Windows 12?

Make the chips, bin out the chips that won’t make 9700x grade.. put them in 9600x and fuse off the defective cores.
Bin out the cores good enough for x3d, put them aside and release as 9800x3d, 9900x3d and 9950x3d.

The remainder put into 9700x, 9950x and the best 6 good core chiplets go into the 9900x.

The 9800x3d came out much more quickly than the 7800/5800x3d versions of their generations. Perhaps the launch was an effective way of squashing Intel’s thunder with their core ultra (or whatever it’s called).

Not quite a paper launch but launching while knowing that supply is limited and will be for a short while to come.

So they can place them in the 9900xd and 9950X3D. They are the currently AMD's version of the e cores that scales from very efficient to power hungry with minimal gains.

Zen C cores are in their Epyc and Threadripper high density parts, many cores. Yes they are lower power and the cache is reduced but the processor cores have feature parity with the non C cores. They aren’t equivalent to the neutered Intel E cores.

 

[aberkae]

Make the chips, bin out the chips that won’t make 9700x grade.. put them in 9600x and fuse off the defective cores.
Bin out the cores good enough for x3d, put them aside and release as 9800x3d, 9900x3d and 9950x3d.

The remainder put into 9700x, 9950x and the best 6 good core chiplets go into the 9900x.

The 9800x3d came out much more quickly than the 7800/5800x3d versions of their generations. Perhaps the launch was an effective way of squashing Intel’s thunder with their core ultra (or whatever it’s called).

Not quite a paper launch but launching while knowing that supply is limited and will be for a short while to come.



Zen C cores are in their Epyc and Threadripper high density parts, many cores. Yes they are lower power and the cache is reduced but the processor cores have feature parity with the non C cores. They aren’t equivalent to the neutered Intel E cores.

True also for every one dual ccd cpu with cache that we hoped for AMD can sell 2 x single cached ccd for the maximum premium of $480 and sell those 9700x/9600x that have plenty of stock the the lackluster demand in comparison to the cached ccd.
Hopefully AMD changes course with zen 6 and changes the ratio of output. More cached ccds and less of the non extra cached ccds.
I really hope they make a last hurra with Zen6 x3d dual cached ccd cpu on am5.

 

[umeng2002_2]

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It also depends on how exactly they/ TSMC is binning and assembling the chips. Until known demand is demonstrated, they might not have wanted to make a ton upfront. If they are binned after assembly, they'll have a lot of 9600X3D laying around for months or years.

 

[FunSurfer]

That's the 6-core binning because they're defective 9700/9800 chips.
Are you saying you want AMD to pull an Intel and aggressively bin poor quality chips into a higher tier?

No, I mean they could use the production lines, time and money to make 9800X3D instead of 9600Xs (for now, when there is a very high demand only for the X3D CPU)

 

[stuff and nonesense]

Chips suitable for the 9600x, six good cores are 8 core chiplets with 2 cores that don’t perform well enough. That are fused off.

They don’t make 6 core chiplets, they harvest them from the bad 8 cores. 9600x chiplets wouldn’t work as 9800x3d chiplets.

 

[rluker5]

AMD probably has to compete with Nvidia for TSMC resources so the situation will improve when demand for AI wanes.
Maybe AMD will have some leftover scheduled production capacity from their Instinct line that seems in low demand. It really seems like a they just can't get enough made issue to me because the demand is there.

 

[Notton]

No, I mean they could use the production lines, time and money to make 9800X3D instead of 9600Xs (for now, when there is a very high demand only for the X3D CPU)

You mean the mighty time consuming production line that is bonding the die to the substrate?
Because that doesn't take any time at all compared to fabricating the die.

I'd guess it takes longer to validate and bin the quality of the chips.

 

[OneMoreUser]

I don't understand AMD, wasting time and resources with making a lot of Ryzen 9600 and 9700 CPUs that are sitting idle on stores' shelves and not enough of 9800X3D that everybody and his wife wants. They should have made less of the non X3D variants so there will be a shortage of those so their price will go up and more of 9800X3D to begin with so they will sell more units, a win-win situation.
By the way, anybody knows if 9800X3D will support Windows 12?

And by a lot you mean what exactly? Do you have AMD's production numbers?
Or for that matter, do you have data on how many of each CPU is sold?

Besides I think you're ignoring that not every PC is a gaming rig, for many it doesn't make sense to go with a 3D version of an AMD chip as they need their computer for something where it doesn't really bring a benefit.

As for the Windows 12 thing, then who is to say only it would be very surprising if there is a problem with support.

 

[FunSurfer]

And by a lot you mean what exactly? Do you have AMD's production numbers?
Or for that matter, do you have data on how many of each CPU is sold?

Besides I think you're ignoring that not every PC is a gaming rig, for many it doesn't make sense to go with a 3D version of an AMD chip as they need their computer for something where it doesn't really bring a benefit.

As for the Windows 12 thing, then who is to say only it would be very surprising if there is a problem with support.

What i do know ,that in my country, the biggest stores chain that sell PC parts, has 9600Xs and 9700Xs laying around on the shelves, but 0 9800X3Ds ,and not even an option for preorder, and I bet this situation is similar in other countries, so obviously AMD is doing something wrong. enough said.

 

[OneMoreUser]

What i do know ,that in my country, the biggest stores chain that sell PC parts, has 9600Xs and 9700Xs laying around on the shelves, but 0 9800X3Ds ,and not even an option for preorder, and I bet this situation is similar in other countries, so obviously AMD is doing something wrong. enough said.

Sounds to me like you only have part of the information needed to say AMD is doing something wrong.

What's on the shelves says nothing about when it was put there, both the 9600X and 9700X was in production before the 9800X3D, so what you are seeing can be from before the 9800X3D went into production or maybe the 9600 and 9700 are made from parts not good enough to work in the 9800X3D.

But I suppose it is more fun to pretend being smarter than AMD.