AMD CPU A6 135 degrees?

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So I noticed my friend's laptop's fans go really loud. So I decided to check his temperature. That's when I noticed it... His indicators said 135 - 145 degrees celcius on both his cores. I know intel CPU's burn at 100 degrees celcius, so are his indicators bad or is his cpu really that hot?
 
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TDP on Intel cpu's like the 3770k,4790k etc is 100-105w. That's the barrier. At a thing over that barrier, the cpu will first try to throttle back, lowering speeds and voltages to the point where slowdowns are obvious. It do this as long as it is successful. As soon as it becomes unsuccessful, the cpu will automatically go into thermal shutdown. You won't be able to accurately measure anything like 135, because self protection will shutdown the cpu long before that.

Software readings are somewhat different. According to SpeedFan, Hwinfo64, my Temp1 reading from Isa Bus 202 (I think that's the right number) is currently at -124°. That's physically impossible without LN2. It's not a bad sensor, its just that software is only so good...


That's not true, my Intel i7 4770K used to get to 100 degrees daily and kept going perfectly, the indicators on there were not broken as my temps turned to normal when I cleaned my cpu fan

 
Yes, your Intel CPU could do that. Most of Intel's newer CPUs are rated for around 90 or 100 degrees C. AMD CPUs are not.

A temp as high as 134 celsius would destroy any modern CPU. Cleaning the dust wouldn't help because it would already be ruined and would not function. The mere fact that touching the laptop doesn't hurt is also very indicative.
 
Well, think about it like this. At 100C, water is boiling. So, just go ahead and stick your hand into some boiling water, then hold your hand on the laptop that is 135C. If the laptop is hotter, then the indicators aren't broken.
 
I don't think it works like that, even though the CPU is 135 degrees, the CPU is not directly touching the bottom of the laptop, and your hand is touching the other side of the laptop side which is even more indirect.
 
With a CPU at 100C in a laptop, the laptop would be painful to touch. At 135 on the CPU, even the laptop is hot enough to seriously burn you. It may even be hot enough to damage the laptop case if it isn't solid aluminum or something like that.

EDIT: Speaking from experience here. My old 2008 system with a Turion 64 X2 2.0GHz (don't remember the exact model number) was pretty dirty in 2013. Before I cleaned it, it was at the point where it couldn't cool the CPU without a two foot diameter fan underneath it running at high speed. Suffice to say it got pretty hot, but the CPU still never got near 100 degrees celsius and I assure you, touching it was painful enough that I used a usb keyboard and mouse until I opened it up and cleaned it. 135 Celsius on the CPU would be almost twice as hot as it got.

Besides, a laptop (or any desktop too) will almost always shutdown immediately if it gets dangerously close to overheating. Modern computers especially will try throttling speed before resorting to a shutdown, but they'll still shutdown if they can't keep the heat down. It's not like a Windows shutdown either, it's like pulling out the AC plug and the battery.
 

I checked it, and the thermal margin indicates 8-13 degrees celcius. I don't know what it means though.
 
When it runs red, it will automatically throttle to lower temps -- that is likely when it drops back to blue.

Maybe you should take the back off and blow out the dust -- it is also rather simple to remove the fan assembly and squeeze some new TIM on the chip.

It would also be a good time to install that new cloned SSD. I modded my Dell A6-6310 'Puma' APU lappie with an SSD, and that thing rocks my world.

 
It still has a fan assembly that gets dirty, and 'paste' which gets old ...

If you pop the model name into your favorite search engine you will likely find a service manual with specific steps on the process.

All you need is the screwdriver...and paste ...... and that SSD.

 

Intel can handle high temps, my i7 3770K hit 100C in the summer a few times while gaming in a 28C room (my dual Pentium Pro averaged 120C with 6 SCSI drives and ran for 12 years no problems). Newer AMD chips aren't tolerant to high temps 62.5C is the recommended max fo FX. My A10 5750m laptop hit 100c as well and shut dow a few times and I took back that stupid laptop.
 
TDP on Intel cpu's like the 3770k,4790k etc is 100-105w. That's the barrier. At a thing over that barrier, the cpu will first try to throttle back, lowering speeds and voltages to the point where slowdowns are obvious. It do this as long as it is successful. As soon as it becomes unsuccessful, the cpu will automatically go into thermal shutdown. You won't be able to accurately measure anything like 135, because self protection will shutdown the cpu long before that.

Software readings are somewhat different. According to SpeedFan, Hwinfo64, my Temp1 reading from Isa Bus 202 (I think that's the right number) is currently at -124°. That's physically impossible without LN2. It's not a bad sensor, its just that software is only so good, and sensors are different on different boards, are affected by outside variables etc. The only way to get a totally accurate temp reading from any cpu is to use an IR gun tagged directly on the cpu.

AMD is no different than Intel in this respect. There is no way that cpu will run at 135°, the Silicon internals that the cpu is made from melt at @127° roughly.

At 135°C, you wouldn't have a cpu, you'd have a small puddle of goo. Either the sensor is bad or the software is reading it wrong.
 
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