News AMD Embraces USB-C For Some Navi 21 Radeon GPUs

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I think this is a good call by AMD. USB-C video output is becoming increasingly common on laptops and tablets. I'm also seeing it on more monitors. I look forward to having 1 cable solve everything for me instead of having a variety of cables and adaptors.

AMD's higher VRAM amount and USB-C support has really diminished my excitement for what Nvidia released. I expect graphics cards to go a minimum of 4 years, so forward-looking specifications are important to me.
 

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I think this is a good call by AMD. USB-C video output is becoming increasingly common on laptops and tablets. I'm also seeing it on more monitors. I look forward to having 1 cable solve everything for me instead of having a variety of cables and adaptors.

AMD's higher VRAM amount and USB-C support has really diminished my excitement for what Nvidia released. I expect graphics cards to go a minimum of 4 years, so forward-looking specifications are important to me.
Its eDP though just using the USB-C port as Intel has been pushing heavily to unify the standards. In fact I think if Intel had their way everything would use Type-C and Thunderbolt.

I guess we will see what AMDs plans are for it. Not sure I see much benefit in it other than what NVidia had planned but didn't pan out.
 

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The only thing that bothers me about USB-C is that it supports 40Gbs which is OK for HDMI 2.1 - but, DisplayPort 2.0 runs at 80Gbs.

I've been running 1080p at 60fps since 2012. I've been waiting to upgrade to 4k at 120fps and HDR10 color depth - and, I'll need DisplayPort 2.0 to do that.

I assume DisplayPort 2.0 will start shipping at the end of this year - but, Nvidia's newest GeForce RTX 3080 is not powerful enough to support DisplayPort 2.0

I'm hoping that Nvidia's newest cards in 2021 will support DisplayPort 2.0
 
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The only thing that bothers me about USB-C is that it supports 40Gbs which is OK for HDMI 2.1 - but, DisplayPort 2.0 runs at 80Gbs.

I've been running 1080p at 60fps since 2012. I've been waiting to upgrade to 4k at 120fps and HDR10 color depth - and, I'll need DisplayPort 2.0 to do that.

I assume DisplayPort 2.0 will start shipping at the end of this year - but, Nvidia's newest GeForce RTX 3080 is not powerful enough to support DisplayPort 2.0

I'm hoping that Nvidia's newest cards in 2021 will support DisplayPort 2.0
Display 2.0 is next year. There are zero monitors supporting it because the scalers haven't been made yet. As a result you won't see it in GPUs either, whereas there are HDMI 2.1 TVs now, and some monitors launching within the next 6 months supporting it.

Also full HDMI 2.1 at 48gps (total max speed and not the actual usable speed) and CVT-RB monitor timings can support 4K HDR10 at 144hz at 4:4:4 without DSC. Even HDMI 2.0 or DP 1.4a can do that if you're willing to accept DSC or chroma subsampling.
 
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AMD's reasons for embracing USB-C on Big Navi are unknown for the moment.
My best guess would be that AMD saw Nvidia adding it to their 20-series cards, and while it may have been too late to work into the 5000-series, incorporated it into their higher-end RDNA2 designs assuming that it might become a common feature moving forward. By the time Nvidia started getting rid of it, AMD probably already had it in the works and decided to go through with it anyway.

It would be funny if USB-C did become a standard on graphics cards in the future though, and Nvidia ended up including again on their next-generation cards.
 

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