[SOLVED] AMD FX 6300 Overclocking

[Mihir Panchal]

Is there any way to set the clock speed of FX 6300 to its original clock rate, so that it will not get overclocked which in turn no heating which in turn no need for cooler other than stock cooler.

And how it can be set?

Thanks

 

[ElMoIsEviL]

While your PC is starting up press F8 on the Flash screen in order to access the BIOS. Disable the AMD Turbo. If that's what you mean.

 

[satyamdubey]

It wont overclock by itself. you have to first get a mobo which supports overclocking and then either enable auto overclocking or manually do. It wont (should not) however OC itself without a user input.

 

[Mihir Panchal]

I am not aware of AMD Turbo. But I dont want my CPU to get overwhelmed or over utilized then the actual clock rate which I guess 4.1 GHz.

 

[Mihir Panchal]

How to identify a "non-clockable" MOBO? and please suggest such good MOBO (normal range) for FX 6300.

 

[satyamdubey]

Mihir, do not worry about overclocking. Overclocking is not an automated feature. Most good AMD motherboards come with native overclocking support but for an Overclock to happen, there are a few hings that you purposefully need to do. Some motherboards have an Auto OC feature and this does not mean that your mobo will overclock your cpu as soon as your system starts up for the first time.

The Auto feature simply means that with a click of a button, the system can set all the parameters like voltages, frequency multipliers, base clock and profiles for RAM by itself. Normally, seasoned Overclockers, tune each of those settings manually by themselves as that way they can further push the system performance to it's limits.

Get a good motherboard for the 6300. Define your budget and I'll help you out. Or else, you can check "Socket AM3+ motherboards" @ theitdepot.com or hardwire.in for starters. Your cpu can only fit in AMD Socket AM3+ design mobo.

let me know if you have any other doubts.

-Satyam

 

[Mihir Panchal]

Satyam, My budget for MOBO is around 3500 Rs. I have heard that AMD FX 6300 also heats well which will require a good cooler, is it true or stock cooler is enough. And power consumption is also more?

And which one will be better i5 3450 or fx 6300.

My machine usage will be surfing, movies, songs, games, and also want to make VM environment holding around 6-7 vms.

thanks.

 

[satyamdubey]

For the VM part alone, I'd go for 6300 though overall the 3450 will beat the 6300 in performance. It is not true that AMD cpus heat up and you essentially require an aftermarket cooler(That is an old K6/K8, Athlon era thing that has suck with Indian vendors, Might have been true 10 years ago but not anymore). An aftermarket cooler is required for relatively high overclocks. The stock cooler is decent enough for day to day use not subject to OC.

There is a parallel thread by user "ElmoIsEvil". It is a sort of a testimonial on 6300 and how he's running VMs. He seems to be content with the 6300's performance. here: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-1731847/experiences-amd-6300-processor.html

As for mobo, give me a couple of minutes and i'll post some links.

 

[Mihir Panchal]

So can fx 6300 range be considered between i3 and i5?
And what about electricity bill, will it be negligible more compared to i5 3450 or can be huge difference? As from the various charts on this site and anandtech and other websites, it seems 6300 consumes more.

 

[Mihir Panchal]

Awaiting answer

 

[AdamSpencer95]

FX6300 will consume slightly more power but not really noticable on your electricity bill. outweighs itself by being cheaper to buy in the first place. also, i would suggest an aftermarket cooler for the FX6300, they do run hot even at stock speeds. Mine ran at 32c idle and 56c full load with stock cooler, close to its maximum temperature of 62c. not strictly neccessary if not overclocking but its always good to let your cpu run cooler.

 

[satyamdubey]

What Adam is suggesting is an issue of how AMD bins it's cpu and not the fact that the cpu per say runs hot. A cpu wont run cooler than ambient even with an aftermarket air cooler. Water cooling units can however bring the temps lower. Most if not all AMD FX cpus have the issue of reporting wrong tempswhen they idle and the margin of error becomes less with load.

an 8120 system that I have for instance reports 16-19 C with the ambient being around 34C. It does however report ~50s C on load which seems to be correct. Now about the way AMD bins the cpus, my i5 2400 also reports 32C idle and is reporting 70C with F@H. nor mal gaming load is 56-57C. But Intel bins it's cpus for higher temps 74 C package temp in my case. this just makes it seem that the AMD cpus run hotter than Intel just because they are running close to their manufacturer claimed cpu package thermal ceiling.

Remember that cpu cores can reach higher temps than the package temps as they are both read at different points on the cpus. Core temps are read by temp diodes close to the cores while the Package temps are read at the IHS (Integrated heat spreader, the shiny metallic part on the cpu).

All modern cpu have a hard built overtemp failsafe which cannot be circumvented and they would anyway trip the system before any damage can happen. Do not worry too much about cpu temps with stock cooler as long as you don not OC. the stock coolers, Intel or AMD are fine for their intended mode/situation of operation.

 

[satyamdubey]

Mihir, the biggest aspect that governs your electricity bill is actually your PSU. The psu's efficiency will actually determine how much you shell out on electricity. As Adam suggested in his post, the difference between "Total system power draw" between comparable AMD and Intel system is not remarkable. AMD's draw more power yes.

It is however a poor psu that will affect you the most. Consider that you have a system which draws 300 watts from the psu at full load. Now you have the option of two psus. A. with 300 Watts, 60 % efficiency and B. with 300 watts and 80% efficiency. Both psu's will out put 300 watts to the system. However to output these 300 watts, they will draw different amounts of power from the wall socket.

Since A is only 60% efficient, it will draw 40% extra power. That means 40% of 300 which is 120 watts extra. B will only draw 20% extra or 60W more. effectively they will draw 420 and 360 Watts respectively and this is what will affect your bill.

 

[Mihir Panchal]

Thanks Adam and Satyam.

Can anyone please suggest me following good compatible components that can go with FX 6300:

RAM: 8 GB *1 ( I have read that low cas latency are good, am I right )
MOBO of normal price
After market cooler of normal price
GPU of normal price.

I meant normal price, because I dont want to spend too much for my PC. At least write model number so that I can search in Indian Rupees.

thanks.

 

[AdamSpencer95]

What Adam is suggesting is an issue of how AMD bins it's cpu and not the fact that the cpu per say runs hot. A cpu wont run cooler than ambient even with an aftermarket air cooler. Water cooling units can however bring the temps lower. Most if not all AMD FX cpus have the issue of reporting wrong tempswhen they idle and the margin of error becomes less with load.

an 8120 system that I have for instance reports 16-19 C with the ambient being around 34C. It does however report ~50s C on load which seems to be correct. Now about the way AMD bins the cpus, my i5 2400 also reports 32C idle and is reporting 70C with F@H. nor mal gaming load is 56-57C. But Intel bins it's cpus for higher temps 74 C package temp in my case. this just makes it seem that the AMD cpus run hotter than Intel just because they are running close to their manufacturer claimed cpu package thermal ceiling.

Remember that cpu cores can reach higher temps than the package temps as they are both read at different points on the cpus. Core temps are read by temp diodes close to the cores while the Package temps are read at the IHS (Integrated heat spreader, the shiny metallic part on the cpu).

All modern cpu have a hard built overtemp failsafe which cannot be circumvented and they would anyway trip the system before any damage can happen. Do not worry too much about cpu temps with stock cooler as long as you don not OC. the stock coolers, Intel or AMD are fine for their intended mode/situation of operation.

+1. yes it always appears AMD chips run hotter but actually usually at lower temps than intel chips. however, the lower maximum operating temperature means they appear to run closer to their maximum temperature than intel chips do. many argue this is due to the type of architecture used which differs greatly from intel chips.

my fx6300 has the temperature reading "issue" too. it reports idle temperatures ~9c but when under load, shows more realistic readings of about 50c with an overclock to 4.2ghz (maximum i could safely get from my motherboard)

and yes as mentioned above, psu's are the most important component when measuring energy use and efficiency, not the cpu alone. if you arent planning to overclock, theres no reason why you cant use budget boards. it depends on what you need out of it. for example, do you want USB 3.0 or will you add several hard drives, and so need lots of high speed sata connections? any motherboard that supports AM3+ sockets will do just fine. just find one with the specs you want. for example, i use a gigabyte 78mlt-s2p. cheap at around $40 but lacks USB 3.0 and the newest generation of sata connections, neither of which i require much for what i use it for. not much use for overclocking due to its power designs but does just fine at stock speeds.in addition, the revision 5 model i have has all sorts of thermal and electrostatic protection built in, meaning it should, in theory, last much longer than the older versions and be more reliable. not had it very long so i cant claim this to be true just yet. hope that helps.

 

[satyamdubey]

^ yep. Gigabytes are good. the 78mlt is trading at around Rs. 3500 on hard wire. This implies that the price you would get at your local store might be lesser. You can assume about 4-8% cheaper than online shops if you buy from a retailer who normally deals in bulk.

 

[Chiragvyas10]

i have an issue on my amd fx 6300(no over clock) on gigabyte ga78lmt s2 motherboard
I usedAIDA64 Extreme
after which i found
motherboard - 62C
CPU - 75C
CPU Diode - 60C
GPU Diode - 56C while gaming
Can anyone help me what is cpu Temperature and cpu diode temperature?
What is the issue exactly