AMD Fx 6300 without any GPU?

[redomicmc]

I was looking to make a semi decent Computer for 300$~. I got a really good deal on 2nd hand parts. It's a MSI 970 Gaming Mobo, Fx 6300, and 16 gigs Hyperx ram for 150$. But now I am worried that I won't be able to play anything without buying a Graphics card. Can the FX 6300 run games without any Graphics card?

 

[InvalidError]

No IGP, no video.

 

[redomicmc]

No IGP, no video.

Hmm, can I use a REALLY cheap Graphics card? You know, the Zotac ones and get decent performance? How about using a GT 710? Any issues with it?

 

[CaptainCretin]

I have more bad news, the FX series are terrible cpus; I HAD a FX6300, and even overclocked to 5.1GHz, it couldnt match my old Phenom2 1090T in exactly the same motherboard; the 1090T was only running at 3.6GHz!!

AMD gutted the memory channels, it has to share them between cores, so under load the cpu runs out of steam.

The only thing the FX6300 can do that the 1090T cant, is play 4K videos smoothly.

 

[ElectrO_90]

Even if you bought a 710 (not sure if it exists) - that is a terrible card - the first number indicates Series, the next indicate power... 10 would be the lowest.
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html

 

[InvalidError]

If you want to play games decently well and don't mind compromising on graphics quality at least a little, you'll need a 750Ti, a GT1030, RX560 or better. As already mentioned, a GT710 would be aiming very low.

And yeah, there is a reason people are dumping pre-Ryzen AMD systems for cheap: their performance is horrible compared to most Intel chips from the past six years and AMD's Ryzen. Still usable, just nowhere near par with what is available today.

 

[cwli1_]

It's not a good card. Much better is a 2Gb Radeon r7 260x on Ebay or ebay.co.uk

The fx6300 automatically overclocks any core that reaches 100%. DX12 & Vulkan games will make better use of 6 cores than DX11. So the processor will last for a long while if you game and much longer if you don't.

On YouTube you can find many videos of the fx6300 performing fine in DX11 games. This video shows that the fx6300 can play Assassins Creed Syndicate at 1080p very well and no core gets near 100% which is sometimes the case when gaming on an Intel i3/i5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfr0ktiGTAI
(Also no problems playing BF1 & 4 multiplayer, Rust, CSGO, Overwatch, GTA5, Far Cry 4, Arma3, dayz, dota, Quake 4, Skyrim, Bioshock Infinite, SWTOR, Rift, Black Desert Online.)

 

[redomicmc]

It's not a good card. Much better is a 2Gb Radeon r7 260x on Ebay or ebay.co.uk

The fx6300 automatically overclocks any core that reaches 100%. DX12 & Vulkan games will make better use of 6 cores than DX11. So the processor will last for a long while if you game and much longer if you don't.

On YouTube you can find many videos of the fx6300 performing fine in DX11 games. This video shows that the fx6300 can play Assassins Creed Syndicate at 1080p very well and no core gets near 100% which is sometimes the case when gaming on an Intel i3/i5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfr0ktiGTAI
(Also no problems playing BF1 & 4 multiplayer, Rust, CSGO, Overwatch, GTA5, Far Cry 4, Arma3, dayz, dota, Quake 4, Skyrim, Bioshock Infinite, SWTOR, Rift, Black Desert Online.)

Only problem, Radeon is like 2x the price in my country. My Options as of now are, GT 730 GDDR5 (90$) With a decent Case and PSU or GTX 1030 (120$) with a very shitty case that has a no fans and might kill my rig if i don't keep the side 'door' open. My budget's 300$, already bought the 2nd hand parts (Ram, Mobo, CPU for 180$ and have a HDD) Only left now is the Graphics card, Case and PSU.
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[DSzymborski]

It's not a good card. Much better is a 2Gb Radeon r7 260x on Ebay or ebay.co.uk

The fx6300 automatically overclocks any core that reaches 100%. DX12 & Vulkan games will make better use of 6 cores than DX11. So the processor will last for a long while if you game and much longer if you don't.

On YouTube you can find many videos of the fx6300 performing fine in DX11 games. This video shows that the fx6300 can play Assassins Creed Syndicate at 1080p very well and no core gets near 100% which is sometimes the case when gaming on an Intel i3/i5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfr0ktiGTAI
(Also no problems playing BF1 & 4 multiplayer, Rust, CSGO, Overwatch, GTA5, Far Cry 4, Arma3, dayz, dota, Quake 4, Skyrim, Bioshock Infinite, SWTOR, Rift, Black Desert Online.)

Only problem, it's 2x the price in my country

Well, what sites can you shop from? It's hard to make recommendations without knowing where we can recommend from.

A GT 710 however, will not run games very well. That's the kind of GPU you see in office builds that use a CPU without a dedicated GPU; it's a solitaire-playing card, in essence.

 

[Karadjgne]

The GT 710 is worse in ability than the igpu in a Haswell or newer cpu, if that puts it into perspective.

Personally, I'd shop around some more, wait on sales, save up a few $ more for a better case and get the GT 1030. There's no point rushing a build that's not going to do anything close to what you want it to do, you'll just be wasting the money you spent.

 

[redomicmc]

It's not a good card. Much better is a 2Gb Radeon r7 260x on Ebay or ebay.co.uk

The fx6300 automatically overclocks any core that reaches 100%. DX12 & Vulkan games will make better use of 6 cores than DX11. So the processor will last for a long while if you game and much longer if you don't.

On YouTube you can find many videos of the fx6300 performing fine in DX11 games. This video shows that the fx6300 can play Assassins Creed Syndicate at 1080p very well and no core gets near 100% which is sometimes the case when gaming on an Intel i3/i5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfr0ktiGTAI
(Also no problems playing BF1 & 4 multiplayer, Rust, CSGO, Overwatch, GTA5, Far Cry 4, Arma3, dayz, dota, Quake 4, Skyrim, Bioshock Infinite, SWTOR, Rift, Black Desert Online.)

Only problem, it's 2x the price in my country

Well, what sites can you shop from? It's hard to make recommendations without knowing where we can recommend from.

A GT 710 however, will not run games very well. That's the kind of GPU you see in office builds that use a CPU without a dedicated GPU; it's a solitaire-playing card, in essence.

I get parts from Amazon.in, you could google Indian rupees to Dollars for a converter. I might just cancel the deal and try getting a Ryzen 5 2400g and 4 GB Ddr4 ram, that a good plan?

 

[ElectrO_90]

You are going to need 8GB of ram @3200Mhz speed
The 2400g is same as Nvidia 1030 - but the 2400g uses 1 GB of ram from your motherboard.

 

[redomicmc]

You are going to need 8GB of ram @3200Mhz speed
The 2400g is same as Nvidia 1030 - but the 2400g uses 1 GB of ram from your motherboard.

Oh wow, that's gonna be expensive. Can I not run anything with 4 GB? I can wait for another month and get another 4 GB stick but until then, i can be happy running LoL or any low spec game

 

[InvalidError]

Oh wow, that's gonna be expensive. Can I not run anything with 4 GB?

Sure, you can run some of the most lightweight games and 10+ years old ones, but expect significant random stutter due to bits of the game getting put into the swap file and not having any spare RAM to cache game assets. If you go down the 2400G route with only 4GB of RAM, you'll have less than 3GB left after what the IGP uses. I can't imagine that going particularly well.

 

[ElectrO_90]

Look at it this way, you can use 4GB, as to what problems you may get... not sure.
But when you can afford 4GB more, you will see an improvement.
Go for the 4gb, see how you go!

 

[InvalidError]

Go for the 4gb, see how you go!

I'd rather have an FX-63xx with 16GB RAM than anything with only 4GB. Not sure I'd even be able to tolerate 8GB.