AMD FX 8300 OR Intel Core i3 6100 for gaming with mid-range dedicated GPU ?

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The tomshardware site puts the two CPUs as the two recommended CPUs on his gaming CPUs review for April 2016 , I'm bit confused ,Which one should i pick for my new pc ?
 
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But the lintel CPU comes with an integrated Graphics card which i'm not going to use because i have an external GPU which means if i buy the Intel CPU then I'm going to pay for something i won't use , i'd better buy a more powerful CPU with the same price with no integrated GPU .
 


EVERY intel cpu apart from Xeon comes with integrated gpu as extra. So for the money you get a 30% better performance with i3 and integrated gpu; doesn't matter will you use it or not, simple as that.

Next stronger cpu would be Intel Core i5-6500 if you want to stick with skylake platform
 
You're not going to able to use the more powerful parts of the fx-8300 because only special software for like video editing will make use of it. And it will still be vastly slower in games vs the i3-6100. AND it runs hotter and you have to spend more money on a better motherboard for it and an aftermarket cooler as well, all these puts the price of it over the i3, and the i3 will still beat it in gameplay FPS.
The intergrated graphics card is a BONUS to the CPU, it doesn't hinder you by "not using it" and you have to option to use it if for some reason your graphics card doesn't work, you can fall back on the integrated graphics to help diagnose the issue.
 


I don't think that this GPU is either cheap . I think it's expensive piece of technology that I'm going to pay for and don't use , I'm right ? . If all CPUs available have GPU included then I'm definitely going to buy one of them because i have no other choices ,But I'd like to know how much does the built-in GPU in a processor add to the price?

 


Don't be silly. That is no reason to pick the FX-8300. The iGPU is practically a feebie. Go with the smart move.
Besides... you'll be surprised at how handy it is to have an alternative GPU available over time. Plus, with most boards, you can use the iGPU at the same time as the discrete card (iGPU Multi Monitor) for a 2nd display.
 


That noone knows since you can't buy separated intel gpu. But what you have to understand is that AMD FX 8300 and Intel Core i3 6100 costs the same but Intel Core i3 6100 outperforms FX in every way apart for maybe video editing but they would be very very close in performance even there, hence I see no reason not to buy i3 6100 over AMD FX 8300 or any other AMD cpu.
 


No you're wrong. It's a fairly cheap piece of technology really, maybe only $20-40 worth, depending on the CPU.
For example:
An Intel Xeon e3-1220 v3 3.1Ghz Quadcore doesn't have integrated graphics and costs roughly $200
An Intel Xeon e3-1226 v3 3.3Ghz Quadcore has integrated graphics and costs roughly $225.

Intel doesn't sell i3s, i5s, or i7s without integrated graphics.

GHz and Cores alone don't tell you how good a CPU is, that's why a 2-core i3-6100 @ 3.7Ghz is superior to an 8-core fX-8300 @ 3.3Ghz.

If you want to not waste money on a CPU with integrated graphics VS the same one with integrated graphics, than you'd be looking at an i7 vs Xeon.

The i7-4770 4-core 8 thread @ 3.4 Ghz costs $305. Has integrated graphics.
The Xeon E3-1240 v3 4-core 8 thread @ 3.4Ghz costs $265. Doesn't have integrated graphics.

But these are much higher end CPUs, at your low-end the difference doesn't matter and you don't actually have a choice.

We know what we're talking about, you don't.
 
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OP brings up a good question - the integrated GPU does actually take up a lot of die space, and adds to manufacturing costs.

However, the cost to actually build an i3 is relatively small next to the price it's sold for; most of that added cost is due to the research and design costs. Also, it would probably be more expensive for Intel to redesign the CPU and design another manufacturing line to produce a low-volume i3 without an integrated GPU.

Consider: An i5 is an i7 with hyperthreading and some of the cache disabled - why? Because it's actually more expensive for Intel to design and build a separate CPU without hyperthreading. They actually make more money by taking the bigger, more expensive chip, disabling part of it, and selling it at a lower price.
 

Thank you for your precious information , From your example of the Xeon and i7 CPUs we can get an approximate value of the price Intel adds to processors when embedding a iGPU in it. But i think the last sentence was unnecessary though.

 
That's not quite true, because the Xeon still has the GPU, it's just disabled/fused off.

Intel's pricing reflects what they need sell their CPUs for to make money, no more, no less. The prices only make sense if you look at their whole product stack from top to bottom - an i7 would actually be far more expensive if there were not $5,000 Xeons that partially make up for design costs.
 


Interesting , The CPU in my current PC is AMD Phenom II X2 550 Processor which has two cores , there was a trend when i bought it to unlock two additional cores that i tried and worked but raised the temperature of the processor so i forgot about it .But i have always questioned if we can simply add two additional physical cores by simple software procedures,Why ADM didn't do it for us , Or why AMD added those two cores in the first place if they are not going to work by default. But i think i now know the answer. Thank you very much.



 


There are about eight AM3+ motherboards on Newegg that support USB 3.1. New releases. Still, the i3 6100 is the better choice. Here's a review of it pitted against an FX-8320E (stock and overclocked). Its for all intents and purposes the same as an FX-8300.

http://www.techspot.com/review/1087-best-value-desktop-cpu/
 
Hello!

i would suggest the fx 8300 if you are willing to overclock or if our planing on staying with this pc for a few years also if you are planing on gaming directx 12 will be able to take advantage off the extra cores of the fx 8300

but if you want a solid upgrade path go for the i3 otherwise for the fx-8300 it will outperform the i3 in most tasks

evidence https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLkaNWo0EV0

whichever CPU you chose i hope you have fun with it!!!
 
If you just want to use for gaming get a PS4.

If you use it for other tasks get anything but a dual core. Fx CPU in question is far better considering even games are vastly multi threaded.

But its only a month or two from zen. And even if and does not deliver a intel killer, it will be change the market. Buying a new CPU is a very bad decision now