AMD FX-8320 Throttling on ASRock 970 Pro3 R2.0

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> CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.50 GHz
> Graphics card: AMD Radeon HD 7800 Series
> Motherboard: ASRock 970 Pro3 R2.0
> Power Supply: Chieftec GPS 600AB
> RAM (16 GB): GoodRAM GR1600D364L11 | GeIL CL11-11-11 D3-1600
> Bios Version: 2.40

Hi, I have little problem. When I playing games, my processor throttle down from 3500 to 1400-1500 MHz, that's very annoying. Example I have 260 FPS and after some time it went to about 50 FPS.

On bios, I disable Spread Spectrum, AMD Turbo Core, AMD APM, Cool 'n' Quiet, Enhanced Halt State (C1E), Core C6 Mode, CPU Thermal Throttle.

CPU "Stress" Temperature about 60 °C
CPU "Normal" Temperature: 45 °C

 
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ya 4phase aint to me too spiffy for highr end chips maybe a 6300 at the best overall , thing is you see a lot of this type thread here regardless of the board used anyway - got to remember as well amd fx line is now getting 5-6 years old and a lot has changes as far as demanding games and all from back then-- and they maybe starting to show there age ???

am3+ is what made me jump to intel for the first time in 16 years . I just could not see buying the past today [opinion]
 
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I would check the thermal margin with the amd overdrive to insure its reading is inline with what ever your using now you could be seeing scocket temp and not core temp ??

so if the thremakl margin shows your 8c ''below'' max you could feel the temp is a a point that easily trigger throttling

search here at toms for things like 8350 hot - temps - and look over threads as well to see if something is posted that resolved there issue ?

to me unless its a temp issue it could be a voltage issue as the guy above said about the vrm's on the lesser boards most prefer for them chips have at least the 8+2 vrm like 990fx boards

also keeping it cool like all the rest find is not so easy as you can see theres a foot note on this

* For cooling the CPU and its surrounding components, please install a CPU cooler with a top-down blowing design

http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/970%20Pro3%20R2.0/?cat=CPU

you see this often on some boards even asus foot notes this at times -- so that's where I would start


take a look over this thread and hoe cooling is talked up

http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-1980847/overclocking-8320-asrock-970-pro3.html

I hate to say but AM3+ is what drove me to intel for my first time ever..
 
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hard to say if the test just run things up until it quits regardless ?? be careful that don't do unwanted damage

try this out and monitor the chip [ just don't run the test that over you memory amount ] it should heat things up and see what temp and all you get at the tests peak ??

i'll send you a result for a guy I worked with in a pm

if you run the same test as we did you should not experience throttling/overheating and should work the chip hard with the same 1,000,000,000 pi test ??

running that at your chip using full load you should still be just below the thermal margin or depending on you temp monitoring stuff 58-62c




http://www.numberworld.org/y-cruncher/
 
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^ not really - all the problem threads have the same common denominator which is namely running a 125w tfp 8 core on a dire quality 4 phase board with crap quality MOSFETs.
Nothing wrong with the fx chips at all - these problems are down to poor component choices by the builder & also by the board manufactures who should remove compatibily for 100ww+ CPU's in boards that can't handle them.

Marren123 - do yourself a favour

Re-enable these
Spread Spectrum,
AMD APM,
Cool 'n' Quiet,
Enhanced Halt State (C1E),
Core C6 Mode,
CPU Thermal Throttle.

You're making the problem worse not better by disabling power management items in bios.

You're suffering vrm throttling plain & simple , your suffering inflated CPU temps under load as a direct result of this.
Vrm's get hot,become less efficient - pump more voltage in a vain attempt to gain stability, CPU socket gets hotter as a result.
Vrm's get even hotter - cycle repeats, & again & again until the vrm throttles CPU clocks due to overheating.

That's as simple as I can make it.
Big aftermarket blower like the raijintek Pallas or phanteks tc12 can help but not guaranteed - its just a poor quality board at the end of the day.
 
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dude , theres plenty like you with top end board as well and plenty using water and run into this .. not hard to find just here at toms threads . 100's of them . just they stand a better chance ?? but yes 4 phase is not so spiffy for top fx chips . your just lucky or your not as I said ''AM3+ is what drove me to intel for my first time ever ''

could be amd is not binning there chip well and you get a good one or you don't


42869 results just on 8350 hot ???

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/all.html?refine=fx8350+hot

heck even AMD admitted it was a mistake

Ultimately AMD’s focus on new “growth areas” isn’t the culprit. What has hurt AMD is a big bet on a Bulldozer architecture — in which two CPU integer cores share a floating-point unit and other components — that simply didn’t work out. “Everyone knows that Bulldozer was not the game-changing part when it was introduced three years ago,” then-CEO Rory Read said at a Deutsche Bank event. “We have to live with that for four years [through 2015]. . .”

the thermal margin to me it the best way to see where you stand with amd

http://www.tomshardware.com/faq/id-2122665/understanding-temperature-amd-cpus-apus.html
 
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^ first 3 of those results
First guy doesn't even have a problem at 62c under prime.
Second guy is running over clocked on a faulty pumped h80
Third guy has a asrock 970 board again.

CBA to peruse any more of those threads , as I said 99% of the time its user error or bad component choices.

Don't think and have ever binned their chips properly anyway , maybe the e series of the fx9*** but that's about it.

Yep they're inefficient old dinosaurs of chips but they're cheap & still perform well enough simple as.

I don't have high end boards here - both of mine are fairly decent quality budget boards but with good cooling.

70c under a stress test is completely normal with a stock cooler & won't cause throttling - you generally won't get CPU throttling until the socket hits 82c if the board is good enough quality.
This guys build us throttling because his vrm's will also be hitting the same kind of temps & due to asrocks poor choice of MOSFETs on these boards they're only good up to the high 50's max.
 
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How many voltage can I pump, I sending you screen - the current processor settings (from Overdrive)
http://imgur.com/PK76QTW
 
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you can only take what it gives you for your best results ..

now he could like we had to do in the old days is improve the boards cooling ?? may help may not cause amd chipsets aint known for being cool and his vrm's are bare any way ?? see if something can slap on where its missing or a fan one over the passive


http://www.frozencpu.com/cat/l2/g40/c16/list/p1/Air_Cooling-Chipset_HeatsinksCoolers.html


I don't see where he says what cpu cooler he's running on it now ??? if a decent one may need to reseat ??

same old story

http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-1980847/overclocking-8320-asrock-970-pro3.html
 
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post a grab of cpu-z cpu tab while the processor is under heavy load (prime or other ) would like to see if the board is overcompensating in someway voltage wise.
the 1.35v shown in in overdrive is not that bad for an 8350 but its possible to get it lower than that imo.

have you reenabled the option I mentioned before??
leaving these disabled will stop voltage dropping at idle & will overinflate temps during general use.



 
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sin's pretty slick but yopu do see that's with a 990fx boards not lowly 4+1 phase

he adds as well

!Warning!:
I take no responsibility if you kill your hardware, overclocking is up to you, and overclocking will void your warranty.
Heat is a deadly thing. For our CPUs it will kill them as fast if not faster than voltage. So please keep temps under 60C at all times. If you are coming over from Intel, please be advised that AMD uses different materials and processing to develop their CPUs. AMD max temp is about 55-60C, while Intel might be 80C. So please don’t go over that, if you do performance will drop off the deep end, and your CPU's lifespan will be reduced.


thing is bottom line you need a 8 phase board at least to have something to work with [not to say it cant be done ,but....... ]
 
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