Amd fx 8350 or 6300?

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I want to enter the world of overclocking starting by buying an unlocked cpu. my current cpu is a i5 4460. i want to start overclocking. but which one should i get?
fx 6300 is pretty much the same as the i5 and its cheaper. so i only have to save 2-3 months to get it. but for the fx 8350 i need to save for 3 more months (hey im just a student) so which one should i get? also, i will be getting a new psu and a liquid cooler, and a new motherboard. which ones should i get?
oh yeah, make everything CHEAP AS POSSIBLE while still maintaining safety.
 
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If you have software or games lagging, amd isn't going to help even if oc'd. A 6300 is not the same as an i5, most of the time a dual core ht enabled i3 will match an fx 8350. Overclocking a 6300 or 8350, plus the cost of a decent psu, motherboard and cooler to do so is going to cost more than buying even another locked core i5 just try and match the locked i5's performance.

It would help to know which games, at what resolution, which gpu etc. If you just want to oc to play around with overclocking for the sake of it, consider a g3258 pentium anniversary edition. They'll oc like crazy with a decent aftermarket cooler and a suitable motherboard and play older to somewhat recent games decent, just not many of the AAA titles that have...

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Is there a specific reason for switching to AMD?

You have an i5-4460 which means an 1150 socket. You can get a 4690K for the same price as a 8350 + mobo (give or take).
Unless your mobo doesn't support it of course, in which case my argument is moot.
 

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Why would you want to do that? Buy new mobo and outdated cpu with inferior architecture with like half the IPC and efficiency of the haswell you currently have. Just get an unlocked i5 like 4690K. Can be OCed just as well.
 

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problems are, 4690 is too expensive. no, i need a new cpu to oc, mainly because some cpu dependent games and softwares lags sometime.
 

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Bro, I have an 8350 and while 4 years ago the 8350 was a solid entry level workstation chip, the 8350 is a on a 4 year old platform that is MASSIVELY obsolete at this point. Spending $500 to go to an inferior wildly power ineffecient platform makes no sense. DO NOT BUY THIS DAMN CPU! Take your money and upgrade to an i7 4790k. They overclock like a champ and will kick even the 9590's ass really easy while using half the power. I cannot wait to get rid of my 8350.
 

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NO amd processor, overclocked or not will ever match your i5 in cpu bound games.


Install a cpu temp monitoring software like hwmonitor, you might be thermal throttling.
 

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u need to change mobo to going from intel to AMD,

and to get the best of AMD chip u will need good mobo, good cooler, good PSU for O.C. it...
It can be quite expensive....

try buying k version of intel chip or aim for i7/xenon if your mobo support it....

edit: missread, have u buy other new component?
since it's sound more like u building 2nd rig than upgrading your intel rig..

for your question, 8350 is better than 6300..
 
If you have software or games lagging, amd isn't going to help even if oc'd. A 6300 is not the same as an i5, most of the time a dual core ht enabled i3 will match an fx 8350. Overclocking a 6300 or 8350, plus the cost of a decent psu, motherboard and cooler to do so is going to cost more than buying even another locked core i5 just try and match the locked i5's performance.

It would help to know which games, at what resolution, which gpu etc. If you just want to oc to play around with overclocking for the sake of it, consider a g3258 pentium anniversary edition. They'll oc like crazy with a decent aftermarket cooler and a suitable motherboard and play older to somewhat recent games decent, just not many of the AAA titles that have come out the past 6mo or so. Going from the 4460 to an fx is a downgrade.
 
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i guess i will just have to save up some money and get an i7? because the pentium seems like... even i overclock it it matches no where around the 4460.
by the way, are there any ways to overclock my 4460? probably upping fsb or sth like that, but how?
i have a h97m anniversary mobo and a 650w psu. i will also invest on a hyper 212 evo.
IF I AM GOING TO OVERCLOCK FSB, do i have to get better ram? mines corsair value select ddr3 1600mhz.
 
I wouldn't bother with fsb (called base clock on i series cpu's) overclocking. It overclocks everything, ram, cpu, pcie and you'll barely get anything out of it before it becomes unstable. Maybe from 100mhz default to 104 or 105mhz or less. Even if you upped the base clock to 104mhz (104x32 multiplier) you'd end up going from 3.2ghz to 3.3ghz and potentially have lots of stability issues and crashes. Locked core cpu's and the standard h97, neither are set up for overclocking. Best to leave it as is. The clock speeds sound slow compared to amd but they're not the same thing. You'd have to get an fx cpu overclocked to around 4.5-4.7ghz to match 3.2ghz on the intel.
 

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i have a gtx 970.... but i just want to run at 60fps.
hey which is the cheapest, unlocked lga1150 cpu that is as good as my 4460? im currently saving some money and hopefully i will get enough.
 
There really aren't any. There's the pentium anniversary edition like the g3258 which is a dual core unlocked cpu. Then you have the i3 series which are dual core with hyper threading, 2 cores/4 threads and they're all locked cores. Next are the i5 series which is what you have and the 4460 is probably one of the least expensive 1150 i5's and has a locked core. The only 1150 i5's that are unlocked and can be overclocked are the 4670k and 4690k, the 4690k being the least expensive at the moment at around $219.

Is overclocking something you just want to do? Feel you need to do? Overclocking does make them faster but to get that feature costs more. Locked core i5's like your 4460 are still strong cpu's even without being overclocked. It depends which game you're trying to play at 60fps, every game is different. There are games out now that won't hit 60fps even with an i7 4790k (stronger than anything amd has to offer) and a gtx 980 gpu which runs $500+ just for the card alone.

If you simply want something cheap to overclock just to say you overclocked it, I'd grab a pentium g3258 for $65. Overclocking can be enjoyable, a sense of satisfaction at achieving a particular goal but usually for people who have an overclocked system they spend a day or so messing with settings, testing it for stability, fine tuning, retesting - and then leave it alone. It's not something you do once a day or once a week unless overclocking is your hobby or you're a competitive oc'er.

In that case, you're not using your pc to check email, facebook, gaming - you're simply spending your time pushing your hardware as fast as it will go and when that's done moving onto a new project. Many serious overclockers who do it constantly and compete have lots of hardware around and try several cpu/motherboard combinations to squeak every last bit of performance out of it. They also use things like liquid nitrogen to cool the cpu's, not air or water cooling like most people. It's an expensive hobby.

If overclocking is your main interest then yes, amd would be a cheaper way to go if you want something to oc that will perform better than g3258 dual core. Just keep in mind, you'd be giving up your current cpu, buying an amd cpu and downgrading your system performance to the point that you still don't have the performance of the i5 after overclocking the amd cpu. Whichever is more important, spending a day or so messing with it and being able to say you overclocked the amd you had to go out and buy or keeping what you have and having better overall system performance. It's your decision.
 

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well.. im really just trying to oc for some sense of achievement or something like that. but should i oc my 970?