AMD FX-8350 Overheating and Shutting Down

[XxStarChaser]

Hello. When I play games like Cs:Go, GTA V etc. , my computer shuts down because of my CPU. I use the stock cooler (Wraith) and my average temp is 40 (idle). When I play games, it quickly becomes 70-80. My specs, if you need them:
AMD FX-8350
Corsair Vengeance 8 Gb Dual-Channel
Gtx 1050 TI
FSP Hyper 700W +85 PSU


Edit: I am going to buy a CM 212 Evo/212x. Should I?
Edit 2: I realized that I forgot to put my motherboard on the specs list. It's ASUS 970 Pro Gaming Aura

 

[mlacount0207]

I found one review comparing the two AMD Wraith Cooler vs Hyper 212 EVO, I think they seemed quite similar in performance unless you are OCing. Although how they kept an overclocked 8350 below 50C is a mystery to me.

Some possible thoughts:
The simplest solution would be go through the graphics options for the games and turn down options that utilize the cpu.
What are your idle cpu temps like (to test to see if it case airflow might be a problem)?
If you launch a stress test to ramp up the cpu temps to around 70C and then exit how quickly do the temps return to idle? If it takes awhile, it may be the thermal paste.

 

[XxStarChaser]

I found one review comparing the two AMD Wraith Cooler vs Hyper 212 EVO, I think they seemed quite similar in performance unless you are OCing. Although how they kept an overclocked 8350 below 50C is a mystery to me.

Some possible thoughts:
The simplest solution would be go through the graphics options for the games and turn down options that utilize the cpu.
What are your idle cpu temps like (to test to see if it case airflow might be a problem)?
If you launch a stress test to ramp up the cpu temps to around 70C and then exit how quickly do the temps return to idle? If it takes awhile, it may be the thermal paste.

My idle temps are between 40 and 50C. And OK, I'll launch a stress test now. I'll write the result after I do it.
(Btw, my case is Cooler Master Silencio 650 Pure. I removed the front and right panels. My room's currently 30C.)

 

[XxStarChaser]

Temps return to idle in 2 Mins. Is it good? Or do I need to change my thermal paste?

 

[XxStarChaser]

So, I launched a stress test again with the panels on. My PC overheated and shut down. But I learned the shutdown temp: 85C. Is this because of thermal paste or cooler? And for a reason, when my computer shuts down and I open it again, my desktop layout kinda resets. Any ideas why?

 

[QwerkyPengwen]

if it heats up super hot and shuts down with a closed case but not with an open case then something is up with the airflow in your case.

 

[XxStarChaser]

if it heats up super hot and shuts down with a closed case but not with an open case then something is up with the airflow in your case.

When I do a stress test with an open case, it doesn't overheat and shut down. But when I play games with it for half an hour, it overheats and shuts down. Not only with a closed case. And as I said, I have a Cooler Master Silencio 650 Pure. Do you think the case might be causing the overheating problem?

 

[mlacount0207]

I have an 8350 myself (with a CORSAIR Hydro Series H50), under stress it reaches around 80 and similar to your set up cools back down in ~2 minutes. I am tempted to say your cooler is doing its job. Part of the problem is simply that FX cpus are power hogs and create heat accordingly.
A few thoughts I have are:
[1] Buy a can of compressed air and check/clean possible dust build up in your case fans and the cpu cooler.
[2] Checking to make sure the 3 case fans are working properly
[3] Assuming you are comfortable with it cleaning and applying new thermal paste could be worth a try
[4] A simple stopgap measure would be see if you can turn down some of the game setting to utilize the cpu less, and/or you could experiment with undervolting/underclocking to keep the cpu cooler.

 

[XxStarChaser]

Ok. But I still have some questions (I hope I am not annoying you). Is it risky to underclock/undervolt? And should I use a closed case?
If this situation keeps going, I'll buy a 212x for that 6C difference. Thanks for your helps.

 

[mlacount0207]

Ok. But I still have some questions (I hope I am not annoying you). Is it risky to underclock/undervolt? And should I use a closed case?
And if this situation keeps going, I'll buy a 212x for that 6C difference. Thanks for your helps.

No worries, if your fans are clean of dust closed case should give better airflow and keep things cooler.

I am a bit biased, but I've been happy with my AIO cooler, you may want to consider that (or something similiar) if you are looking for new cooling solutions. Basically it uses a closed loop of cooler liquid to pull heat from the cpu to a radiator which with an additional case fan (that for your case could be placed in the fan slot on the top of your case) can blow air through the radiator right out of the case.

And to clarify the option of underclocking/undervolting:
Underclocking is the opposite of overclocking, its reducing the maximum speed at which your cpu can run
Underclocking can't do any damage other than making the cpu slower, but poses 0 risk of any physical damage. Its kind of like forcing your 8350 to act like an 8320 for example.

Undervolting is reducing the maximum voltage the cpu can draw from the motherboard, thus under stress the cpu would consume less power and produce less heat.
This can't cause any permanent physical damage and actually in theory can extend the lifetime of your cpu by reducing its heat generation, the catch is that especially for a high frequency part like the 8350 you probably can't undervolt much if at all without underclocking as well. This is because depending on the load the cpu will run at a different frequency, as load increases so does frequency. Higher frequencies require higher voltage to keep the cpu stable, thus more heat. if you try to go to a frequency without sufficient voltage you'll bluescreen. The difficulty is that the voltage required for a particular frequency is unique to every cpu, even those of the same model.

For more details on undervolting I'd recommend this post. It's 9 years old and won't help for figuring out how to actually undervolt your machine, but it gives a good overview of undervolting, its benefits, and goes through the general steps to undervolt.

That was longer than I originally intended, hope it helps.

 

[XxStarChaser]

Ok. But I still have some questions (I hope I am not annoying you). Is it risky to underclock/undervolt? And should I use a closed case?
And if this situation keeps going, I'll buy a 212x for that 6C difference. Thanks for your helps.

No worries, if your fans are clean of dust closed case should give better airflow and keep things cooler.

I am a bit biased, but I've been happy with my AIO cooler, you may want to consider that (or something similiar) if you are looking for new cooling solutions. Basically it uses a closed loop of cooler liquid to pull heat from the cpu to a radiator which with an additional case fan (that for your case could be placed in the fan slot on the top of your case) can blow air through the radiator right out of the case.

And to clarify the option of underclocking/undervolting:
Underclocking is the opposite of overclocking, its reducing the maximum speed at which your cpu can run
Underclocking can't do any damage other than making the cpu slower, but poses 0 risk of any physical damage. Its kind of like forcing your 8350 to act like an 8320 for example.

Undervolting is reducing the maximum voltage the cpu can draw from the motherboard, thus under stress the cpu would consume less power and produce less heat.
This can't cause any permanent physical damage and actually in theory can extend the lifetime of your cpu by reducing its heat generation, the catch is that especially for a high frequency part like the 8350 you probably can't undervolt much if at all without underclocking as well. This is because depending on the load the cpu will run at a different frequency, as load increases so does frequency. Higher frequencies require higher voltage to keep the cpu stable, thus more heat. if you try to go to a frequency without sufficient voltage you'll bluescreen. The difficulty is that the voltage required for a particular frequency is unique to every cpu, even those of the same model.

For more details on undervolting I'd recommend this post. It's 9 years old and won't help for figuring out how to actually undervolt your machine, but it gives a good overview of undervolting, its benefits, and goes through the general steps to undervolt.

That was longer than I originally intended, hope it helps.

Thank you for the advice! I am actually impressed by the results of underclocking. I underclocked it to 3500 MHz.
I think that's enough for my games. And now, I get 40-50C idle temps instead of 50-60C! I am gonna try undervolting now. Then, I will test its performance in-game. When I get my target fps and Temps, I will mark this as a solved thread. Thanks for your helps again!

 

[mlacount0207]

Ok. But I still have some questions (I hope I am not annoying you). Is it risky to underclock/undervolt? And should I use a closed case?
And if this situation keeps going, I'll buy a 212x for that 6C difference. Thanks for your helps.

No worries, if your fans are clean of dust closed case should give better airflow and keep things cooler.

I am a bit biased, but I've been happy with my AIO cooler, you may want to consider that (or something similiar) if you are looking for new cooling solutions. Basically it uses a closed loop of cooler liquid to pull heat from the cpu to a radiator which with an additional case fan (that for your case could be placed in the fan slot on the top of your case) can blow air through the radiator right out of the case.

And to clarify the option of underclocking/undervolting:
Underclocking is the opposite of overclocking, its reducing the maximum speed at which your cpu can run
Underclocking can't do any damage other than making the cpu slower, but poses 0 risk of any physical damage. Its kind of like forcing your 8350 to act like an 8320 for example.

Undervolting is reducing the maximum voltage the cpu can draw from the motherboard, thus under stress the cpu would consume less power and produce less heat.
This can't cause any permanent physical damage and actually in theory can extend the lifetime of your cpu by reducing its heat generation, the catch is that especially for a high frequency part like the 8350 you probably can't undervolt much if at all without underclocking as well. This is because depending on the load the cpu will run at a different frequency, as load increases so does frequency. Higher frequencies require higher voltage to keep the cpu stable, thus more heat. if you try to go to a frequency without sufficient voltage you'll bluescreen. The difficulty is that the voltage required for a particular frequency is unique to every cpu, even those of the same model.

For more details on undervolting I'd recommend this post. It's 9 years old and won't help for figuring out how to actually undervolt your machine, but it gives a good overview of undervolting, its benefits, and goes through the general steps to undervolt.

That was longer than I originally intended, hope it helps.

Thank you for the advice! I am actually impressed by the results of underclocking. I underclocked it to 3500 MHz.
I think that's enough for my games. And now, I get 40-50C idle temps instead of 50-60C! I am gonna try undervolting now. Then, I will test its performance in-game. When I get my target fps and Temps, I will mark this as a solved thread. Thanks for your helps again!

Your welcome glad my suggestion worked out for what you were looking for.