AMD FX-9590 vs alternatives

[OllyKV]

I've recently been planning to build my first computer and I'm rather inexperience in the field (not totally incompetent though). I mainly intend to use it for editing (very minimal) and rendering videos using Sony Movie Studio. After some research I've found that the AMD FX-9590 is the probably the most powerful CPU I could afford (if this is wrong please tell me). So if anyone knows of any alternatives that are cheaper or CPU's that suit my computing needs better I would much appreciate any feed back and if you could recommend any GPU, RAM and Hard disk that would compliment the CPU that would be great. Along with a cooling system as I've read the FX-9590 has a heat problem.

Thank you

PS My ideal budget would be around £300 (I realise that may not be possible) but can be pushed to around 350

 

[CTurbo]

Any i7 would be much better than the FX9590

 

[Rhezner]

Not even CLOSE

Get the xeon e3 1231 v3, it is basically a 4790k clocked .6ghz lower

Here is a 4790k vs a 9590, And you don't have to spend gob tons on electricity and cooling.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDVcpAhegWs

Even a 4690k is better than them in almost every way
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iehrXA3n39c

For 350 you could even get a 6700k and there is no competition.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vB1jKNp1Uo

the 9590 is basically an old power hungry expensive mediocre CPU that is not nearly as good as intel alternatives, and I am not a fanboy, I readily recommend AMD GPUs and budget AMD CPUs.

 

[Supernova1138]

Saying the FX 9590 has a heat problem is almost an understatement, it pretty much requires water cooling to run, or at the very least an extreme high end air cooler, either way you're paying about $100 or so just to get a cooler that can deal with the heat. The FX 9590 is also extremely power hungry, and only a small selection of really high end motherboards with the 990FX chipset even support it.

If you really want to go with AMD, you're best off buying the FX 8320 or 8350 and overclocking it yourself if you want more performance. Intel is probably a better option, as for the same amount of money it would cost to get the FX 9590, an appropriate motherboard and a CPU cooler, you could buy a Core i7 based setup that would outperform the FX 9590 while consuming less power.

A cheaper Intel option would be to get the Xeon E3 1231v3, which is a Core i7 with the integrated graphics disabled. It would also outperform the FX 9590 while being cheaper.

 

[OllyKV]

Not even CLOSE

Get the xeon e3 1231 v3, it is basically a 4790k clocked .6ghz lower

Here is a 4790k vs a 9590, And you don't have to spend gob tons on electricity and cooling.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDVcpAhegWs

Even a 4690k is better than them in almost every way
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iehrXA3n39c

For 350 you could even get a 6700k and there is no competition.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vB1jKNp1Uo

the 9590 is basically an old power hungry expensive mediocre CPU that is not nearly as good as intel alternatives, and I am not a fanboy, I readily recommend AMD GPUs and budget AMD CPUs.

When I said 350 I meant for the entire computer but gauging your response I imagine that I am beyond hopeful with that budget and would have to look to much cheaper CPU's

 

[CTurbo]

There is no way you could even get the FX9590 + proper cooler + compatible motherboard in that budget

 

[OllyKV]

There is no way you could even get the FX9590 + proper cooler + compatible motherboard in that budget

Haha I thought that might be the answer I'm using pc part picker to create a rough idea what do you know about AMD athlon x4 860k? It's a far cheaper alternative? I'm sorry if I sound like I have no idea what I'm doing because I kind of don't

 

[Suzuki@1473780084@1473780163]

The FX9590 is going to require a good motherboard. The power phase/vrm/mosfets are going to take a beating, trying to power that thing. And yes, it's going to get expensive.

 

[Rhezner]

yeah there is no way in hell you will fit that CPU in a 300 pound budget

Do you need an os? if so i doubt the computer will be much and a 300 pound computer wont render that well anyways.

 

[OllyKV]

yeah there is no way in hell you will fit that CPU in a 300 pound budget

Do you need an os? if so i doubt the computer will be much and a 300 pound computer wont render that well anyways.

Any suggestions on the next best alternative? I won't be doing any serious editing, I just want fast rendering

 

[Supernova1138]

You're not likely to get fast rendering at that low a budget if you're buying new. Down at your budget you're looking at Pentiums from Intel and quad core A series APUs from AMD as your most likely CPU options, none of which are particularly fast at rendering. The best cheap option for rendering would probably be the FX 6300, but you have to be careful with the cheap AM3+ boards, as a lot of them have rather weak power systems on them that can cause problem with higher core count FX chips.

Other than that, you'd have to start looking at used hardware, eg. see if there is someone who is looking to unload an old i7 with compatible motherboard from a few years ago, and are willing to part with it for a decent price.

 

[Rhezner]

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/8qgPqs

This is strictly for CPU rendering, you could get 16gb of ram if you feel it is necessary, This thing won't game much at all.

 

[OllyKV]

What are the practicality of blowing most of my budget on the CPU and cheaping out on the rest of the components or would this not be a wise move? How important is the video card to rendering as I've read mixed opinions on the subject or is the video card mainly to make editing smoother?

 

[OllyKV]

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/c4Wrgs This would be absolutely breaking the bank for me but is this a good setup?

 

[Rhezner]

It really depends if you use GPU acceleration or use a GPU intensive rendering program.

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/KqCrgs Get this if you use GPU acceleration or a program that is largely GPU intensive.

Or get your build if you only use a CPU intensive application.

 

[Suzuki@1473780084@1473780163]

Try to balance the machine. Don't focus too much on CPU. Make sure you have a good hard drive setup first. You're going to slow yourself down by using only 1 hard drive, for example.

 

[Rhezner]

some rendering applications don't utilize a GPU at all.

 

[OllyKV]

I'll be using Sony Movie Studio but as a said I'll be doing very little editing just mainly rendering videos for Youtube

 

[mlga91]

If you're only doing rendering/editing you'll be better with raw CPU power, this would be my recomendation for your budget:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor (£110.16 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P ATX AM3+ Motherboard (£64.87 @ More Computers)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£39.70 @ Scan.co.uk)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£39.00 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R5 230 1GB Core Edition Video Card (£27.88 @ Scan.co.uk)
Case: Thermaltake VL80001W2Z ATX Mid Tower Case (£28.25 @ CCL Computers)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£36.40 @ Ebuyer)
Total: £346.26
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-08-11 05:46 BST+0100

 

[OllyKV]

Thanks for all your recommendations guys I do really appreciate it. What would be the best i5 I feel as if most of those are of a good price range and I'm leaning towards Intel on the cpu

 

[OllyKV]

What about the i7 4770S? I reckon I could afford that at a push

 

[madmatt30]

Currently the 4460 has the best price/performance ratio in the UK.

With an i5 you will 100% get away without a discrete GPU - you would be far better off with a h97 board though mate.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor (£140.47 @ CCL Computers)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£54.33 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory (£29.99 @ Ebuyer)
Storage: Crucial BX100 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£64.90 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£38.99 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Zalman Z3 Plus ATX Mid Tower Case (£25.29 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£36.40 @ Ebuyer)
Total: £390.37
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-08-11 22:17 BST+0100

 

[OllyKV]

Currently the 4460 has the best price/performance ratio in the UK.

With an i5 you will 100% get away without a discrete GPU - you would be far better off with a h97 board though mate.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor (£140.47 @ CCL Computers)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£54.33 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory (£29.99 @ Ebuyer)
Storage: Crucial BX100 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£64.90 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£38.99 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Zalman Z3 Plus ATX Mid Tower Case (£25.29 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£36.40 @ Ebuyer)
Total: £390.37
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-08-11 22:17 BST+0100

I know having two storage areas is good for speeding up rendering but why SSD better than the Internal Hard Drive by the looks of it not having an SSD would shave £65 of the total cost?

 

[madmatt30]

^ it would indeed ,the choice is yours there - its habit on my part mainly to add an ssd automatically.

 

[OllyKV]

^ it would indeed ,the choice is yours there - its habit on my part mainly to add an ssd automatically.

Would it be better to keep the SSD as opposed to the Internal Hard Disk?