News AMD launches Ryzen 5 7600X3D: Microcenter exclusive six-core Zen 4 CPU with game-boosting 3D V-Cache

[Admin]

AMD's Ryzen 5 7600X3D to be exclusively available at Micro Center retail stores.

AMD launches Ryzen 5 7600X3D: Microcenter exclusive six-core Zen 4 CPU with game-boosting 3D V-Cache : Read more

 

[Dntknwitall]

AMD again making another chip out of reach for Canadian consumers. Why do they feel the need to lock a chip to a region? Is it some special tech that they do not want Canada to have? AMD you need to do better at making budget items more accessible to the Canadian market. As an AMD user, this is disappointing.

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

AMD again making another chip out of reach for Canadian consumers. Why do they feel the need to lock a chip to a region? Is it some special tech that they do not want Canada to have? AMD you need to do better at making budget items more accessible to the Canadian market. As an AMD user, this is disappointing.

Not only Canadian. Same here in Ireland (Europe). I always envy the deals/tech in the US. that you can't get elsewhere. As an island country, we pay more for everything. Although our tax/vat is included in pricing. Your tax isn't, is that right?

 

[Notton]

If it's anything like the reasons for 5600X3D, it is because yields of 7800X3D are really good and it took a while for binned chips to pile up.

Y'all are aware that AMD accepts custom orders, right?

 

[usertests]

Micro Center bros eating GOOD today! lul

 

[Amdlova]

Will have two mcd? One bad and one way worse? Why someone want that? This is a premium junk

 

[DingusDog]

AMD again making another chip out of reach for Canadian consumers. Why do they feel the need to lock a chip to a region? Is it some special tech that they do not want Canada to have? AMD you need to do better at making budget items more accessible to the Canadian market. As an AMD user, this is disappointing.

Even in the US most people are nowhere near a Microcenter so it's essentially locked to certain cities. I'm not traveling 6-8 hours to visit one of their locations.

 

[jlake3]

AMD again making another chip out of reach for Canadian consumers. Why do they feel the need to lock a chip to a region? Is it some special tech that they do not want Canada to have? AMD you need to do better at making budget items more accessible to the Canadian market. As an AMD user, this is disappointing.

This might be as much MicroCenter’s doing as AMD’s. They’re famous/infamous for using sub-MSRP CPU pricing with the restriction of “In-store only, 1 per household per 30 day period at this price” to drive foot traffic in their stores, and they cut a deal with AMD in the past to make an exclusive in the past that was basically a low-volume salvage yield. I believe they only did one run of those where they essentially just bought out AMD’s stockpiled rejects and paid up front for all the inventory, and when it sold through it was gone.

Not only Canadian. Same here in Ireland (Europe). I always envy the deals/tech in the US. that you can't get elsewhere. As an island country, we pay more for everything. Although our tax/vat is included in pricing. Your tax isn't, is that right?

Sales tax is almost never included in advertised US prices, as it varies by state and county. It’s (almost) always calculated at the register.

Will have two mcd? One bad and one way worse? Why someone want that? This is a premium junk

One CCD would be the logical configuration, since AMD hasn’t done an X3D with Vcache split across multiple dies. And the appeal would be an improvement to cache-sensitive gaming performance at a lower price.

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

If it's anything like the reasons for 5600X3D, it is because yields of 7800X3D are really good and it took a while for binned chips to pile up.

Y'all are aware that AMD accepts custom orders, right?

Not in Ireland they don't. Or for that part, anywhere else in Europe.

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

Will have two mcd? One bad and one way worse? Why someone want that? This is a premium junk

Premium junk that will beat your 13600/500T in gaming

 

[Notton]

Not in Ireland they don't. Or for that part, anywhere else in Europe.

I'm talking about this https://www.amd.com/en/products/semi-custom-solutions.html
no idea what the minimum cost is. I'd guess $100million

 

[WINTERLORD]

I hope Tom's does a review in this I'm kinda curios myself as to how this would stack up to a 7900x3d sure is prolly slower but still

 

[Steve Nord_]

Even in the US most people are nowhere near a Microcenter so it's essentially locked to certain cities. I'm not traveling 6-8 hours to visit one of their locations.

Are you like, outside their delivery area? No USPS or DHL? Likewise IRE, if you want 10,000 of something from AMD from Epiq to 7989X3D (custom 40 GB cache under a heatspreader somehow) get on the phones for VAT and delivery specials. Then you can make mice that barf ink rainbows and grow peat right there on the desk...

 

[helper800]

Are you like, outside their delivery area? No USPS or DHL? Likewise IRE, if you want 10,000 of something from AMD from Epiq to 7989X3D (custom 40 GB cache under a heatspreader somehow) get on the phones for VAT and delivery specials. Then you can make mice that barf ink rainbows and grow peat right there on the desk...

Microcenter does not sell these to ship, in-store purchase only for most of their deals.

 

[TeamRed2024]

Even in the US most people are nowhere near a Microcenter so it's essentially locked to certain cities. I'm not traveling 6-8 hours to visit one of their locations.

I keep hearing how great Micro Center is but I've never set foot in the place... because they have very limited locations west of the Mississippi and the closest one to my location is 1200 miles away in southern CA.

Crazy how they are all over the place... except the western US.

 

[Amdlova]

Premium junk that will beat your 13600/500T in gaming

Get one first to say it can beat it 😉 I have here the collection of T cpus

https://ibb.co/Q6SFWJS 35w vs 170w

 

[Morkail]

Guess we know why the 7800x3d bundle went up it use to be just about 500 bucks so 50 less for 6 cores compared to 8 isnt much of a deal but its more like 100 now.

 

[Guardians Bane]

Even in the US most people are nowhere near a Microcenter so it's essentially locked to certain cities. I'm not traveling 6-8 hours to visit one of their locations.

Are the bundles and CPUs in store only? If not, they'll ship it.

 

[Maxor1]

AMD's Ryzen 5 7600X3D to be exclusively available at Micro Center retail stores.

AMD launches Ryzen 5 7600X3D: Microcenter exclusive six-core Zen 4 CPU with game-boosting 3D V-Cache : Read more

Not only Canadian. Same here in Ireland (Europe). I always envy the deals/tech in the US. that you can't get elsewhere. As an island country, we pay more for everything. Although our tax/vat is included in pricing. Your tax isn't, is that right?

I'm not saying that you guys in both places don't deserve to get good/interesting deals. That said this in a retail store here that contacted AMD's semi-custom department and basically said "hey if your binning of your x3d chips gets to 10,000 units (might not even be that high) that will make 6 core parts with otherwise similar specs we will pay you probably about $110 for chips that otherwise wouldn't be sold. Microcenter has been doing this for decade's but you used to see it with other retailers as well and sometimes with various system builders where they would have a similiar kinda weird sku part for systems that were offered at a discount.

There simply aren't ever going to be very many of these in the wild. That said this hasn't gone live yet at Microcenter's flagship store in Columbus OH (about 13 miles) and 15 minutes drive from my house. I may try and get one of these depending on the bundle and when it goes live.

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

I'm not saying that you guys in both places don't deserve to get good/interesting deals. That said this in a retail store here that contacted AMD's semi-custom department and basically said "hey if your binning of your x3d chips gets to 10,000 units (might not even be that high) that will make 6 core parts with otherwise similar specs we will pay you probably about $110 for chips that otherwise wouldn't be sold. Microcenter has been doing this for decade's but you used to see it with other retailers as well and sometimes with various system builders where they would have a similiar kinda weird sku part for systems that were offered at a discount.

There simply aren't ever going to be very many of these in the wild.

Yeah, I get the business model for Microcenter. I'm just pointing out how hard done by we can be sometimes 😉 Our tech sellers take the mick sometimes. This is because they know we will have to pay if we want it. Prices are always higher than in the US and that's even with taxes figured in.

 

[Maxor1]

Are the bundles and CPUs in store only? If not, they'll ship it.

Many are some aren't. With the bundles especially the ones that are offering bigger discounts you're looking at something that is not moving well in inventory that is being paired with a desirable and compatible part. So you'll see something kind of odd like a high end CPU (R9 or I9 cpu) being paired with a mid tier micro-atx motherboard , they might put in a middling amount of ram as well, then it will be priced at a point where you're getting either the motherboard or the ram at about 70% off.

That said in a lot of cases it's weird detail stuff and if you sift through them you can lots of times find something that's a very good value for you and your use case.

 

[jlake3]

Get one first to say it can beat it 😉 I have here the collection of T cpus

https://ibb.co/Q6SFWJS 35w vs 170w

This feels like bait, but I'll bite.

• The Tom's Hardware review of the 7800X3D has it beating the 125W i5-13600K in gaming. While the 7600X3D is going to lose some performance, so will the 13600T.
• The 7800X3D is rated for 120W TDP, not 170W, but in the testing done here on Tom's Hardware it averages less than 90W in highly multi-threaded CPU benchmarks. The 13600T is rated for 35W sustained, but allowed to turbo up to 92W, and I can't find testing on what it actually averages (but the 13600K average in the same tests exceeds Intel's maximum turbo rating).
  • The CPU-Z bench runs ST and MT tests in a total of about 20 seconds on my system, so it's probably not a great measure of sustained performance.
• Your own numbers have the 13600T down by 13% in CPU-Z single-thread, but the testing by Tom's above has the 7800X3D only averaging 32W when power testing with a single-threaded CPU benchmark. Giving the 13600T more power or capping the 7800X3D to less likely isn't going to wildly swing those numbers.
  • Most gaming is no longer purely single threaded anyway, and 35W split up among 6 P-cores is only 6 watts each. While many desktop CPUs are pushed into diminishing returns, diminishing returns are still returns.
• CPU-Z isn't a good benchmark for showing off the effect of Vcache on gaming. My 5800X3D scores 95% of the reference 5950X in the single-thread CPU-Z bench, which is a little better than the 92% you'd expect from just comparing boost clock to boost clock, but in gaming benchmarks it wildly outperforms what those CPU-Z numbers would imply.

Intel's T-suffix models might do great perf/watt numbers (based on their rated TDP, since I can't find Tom's-style power testing for them), but stock-for-stock and head-to-head, they're not better gaming CPU's than AMD's similarly-priced offerings.

 

[Amdlova]

It's limited to 20w single core operations
20w to 32w long way
The 13600t used 165usd 13500t 145us
Some motherboard can give a idle of 15w

 

[jlake3]

It's limited to 20w single core operations
20w to 32w long way
The 13600t used 165usd 13500t 145us
Some motherboard can give a idle of 15w

Ok? The 13600K pulled down 38W in the same single-core test and lost to the 7800X3D in gaming, and as I said, most gaming is no longer purely single threaded anyway. A perf/watt win in a specific single-threaded synthetic benchmark is not evidence the 13600T is a better gaming CPU.

Again... Ok? You can get AMD processors used for less than new ones as well. The fact Intel does not sell boxed T-series processors through retail channels makes comparison hard, but using MSRP for AMD and a used price for Intel (a price I'm not seeing any listings currently available at) is disingenuous. Buying new, the 13600T and 14600T both have a recommended price of $255/each, but only when purchased in non-retail packaging in quantities of 1k.

And the initial claim was that the 7600X3D would be a better gaming CPU than the 13600T. Not a better productivity CPU, not better on a per-watt basis, not better on a per-dollar basis, just that it would score higher in a gaming average.

 

[Guardians Bane]

Many are some aren't. With the bundles especially the ones that are offering bigger discounts you're looking at something that is not moving well in inventory that is being paired with a desirable and compatible part. So you'll see something kind of odd like a high end CPU (R9 or I9 cpu) being paired with a mid tier micro-atx motherboard , they might put in a middling amount of ram as well, then it will be priced at a point where you're getting either the motherboard or the ram at about 70% off.

That said in a lot of cases it's weird detail stuff and if you sift through them you can lots of times find something that's a very good value for you and your use case.

Oh, I know about the bundles for sure. I've been looking at a 7700x bundle. Damn good deal. But as you said the pairing with a lower end board is how they do it. But at least for 399 USD, it's a damn good deal.

7700x
B650 mobo
16 GB RAM (6000)

That's all I'd really need for my use case. And it's definitely a better deal than the 7600x bundle at 200 USD.

I was more talking about how the op comment I replied to was upset about the exclusivity of the new 7600x3d at MC.

As far as I know they do ship. So it isn't like others won't be able to get their hands on one.
Think about it ... If Amazon sold it... It would still have to be shipped. Same for most market place sellers.