News AMD, Nvidia GPU Pricing Trends Lower as Supply Improves

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Interestingly, AMD's budget-minded RX 6500 XT graphics card currently stands as the card closest to its $299 MSRP - average listing prices for it currently stand at 117% MSRP, following a significant, 26% reduction compared to January 23rd.
Wasn't that a $199 MSRP?

So, are the average listing prices of the 6500XT at 117% of $199, or at 117% of $299?
 

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You guys quoted the 6500XT as $299 MSRP. It's $199 blah ha ha ha And still trash at that price.
$200 is AMD reference models. Custom models like GB's WindForce 3X OC are around $300 MSRP. Completely overkill but what is $15-20 worth of extra parts and materials when you can attempt to charge $100 extra for something you expect to be perpetually sold-out based on nothing else being available new?
 
$200 is AMD reference models. Custom models like GB's WindForce 3X OC are around $300 MSRP. Completely overkill but what is $15-20 worth of extra parts and materials when you can attempt to charge $100 extra for something you expect to be perpetually sold-out based on nothing else being available new?
And they are sitting on the shelves...collecting dust. They shot themselves in the foot on this one.

A RX570 4GB could be had for ~ $100 at one point. The RX580 4GB< $200 MSRP and was faster. The RX580 8GB could be had @ $120 after rebates at the low point. And that card is vastly superior. To charge almost 3x's as much for 50 cents more aluminum is horse manure.

Are GloFo's 12nm fabs tied up? Shoot just go back to making 580's for $200
 
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The RX580 8GB could be had @ $120 after rebates at the low point. And that card is vastly superior. To charge almost 3x's as much for 50 cents more aluminum is horse manure.
They may have sold that low but only because manufacturers ramped up production thinking the crypto bubble would keep going. Then the market crashed, the used market got flooded with dirt-cheap retired mining cards and AMD/AIBs were stuck with a large commit of no longer sellable parts they had to get rid of at severely discounted prices. Not only were the 8GB RX580s retailing as low as $120 but that also included a promo for your pick of one free game out of three offered, so knock another $40-70 if you were going to buy any of the three games for anywhere close to retail.

Are GloFo's 12nm fabs tied up? Shoot just go back to making 580's for $200
Probably can't do that due to GDDR5 being discontinued by most memory manufacturers. If AMD is going to re-spin a chip just to accommodate the fact that GDDR5 is no longer an option, "Big Navi 204" with all of its worst handicaps resolved would make more sense. Give it encoders/decoders, 4.0x8 at a minimum and 6GB/96b memory.
 
They may have sold that low but only because manufacturers ramped up production thinking the crypto bubble would keep going. Then the market crashed, the used market got flooded with dirt-cheap retired mining cards and AMD/AIBs were stuck with a large commit of no longer sellable parts they had to get rid of at severely discounted prices. Not only were the 8GB RX580s retailing as low as $120 but that also included a promo for your pick of one free game out of three offered, so knock another $40-70 if you were going to buy any of the three games for anywhere close to retail.


Probably can't do that due to GDDR5 being discontinued by most memory manufacturers. If AMD is going to re-spin a chip just to accommodate the fact that GDDR5 is no longer an option, "Big Navi 204" with all of its worst handicaps resolved would make more sense. Give it encoders/decoders, 4.0x8 at a minimum and 6GB/96b memory.
The idea was to alleviate 7nm supply constraints similar to how NVIDIA did with respinning the 2000 series.
 

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The idea was to alleviate 7nm supply constraints similar to how NVIDIA did with respinning the 2000 series.
Reviving older products doesn't do much with VRAM, VRM, substrates and support components shortages. Doesn't help much with other packaging and testing bottlenecks either. The bare dies are only a tiny part of the overall manufacturing bottleneck situation.
 
Reviving older products doesn't do much with VRAM, VRM, substrates and support components shortages. Doesn't help much with other packaging and testing bottlenecks either. The bare dies are only a tiny part of the overall manufacturing bottleneck situation.
I understand substrate mfg right now is under constaint, but supply is improving. That said substrates are qualified based on node size also. So you have certain substrates certified for certain node A use. And other substrates certified for node B use.
 

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I understand substrate mfg right now is under constaint, but supply is improving. That said substrates are qualified based on node size also. So you have certain substrates certified for certain node A use. And other substrates certified for node B use.
Substrates do not care about process node. The most important factors are uBGA pitch, being able to stack enough layers to accommodate the fanout requirements, enough copper to handle the current draw and be able to withstand the heat.
 

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yay prices going down. Still a long ways to go. I think if cryptos keep declining and ethereum does the merge and intels gpus are decent with good bios unlike their igpus we will be back to normal for the most part by fall or even earlier. Im optimistic
 

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