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[I need help plz]

I'm getting my son a gaming computer for Christmas my budget is £250 it is not much but which should I go for

 

[RyanDavidson]

I'm getting my son a gaming computer for Christmas my budget is £250 it is not much but which should I go for

Sorry to break it to you but it's impossible to get a gaming pc for £250 unless you increase it by £200 I advise you to pick up a next gen console.
All the best.

 

[GraphicsEnthusiast]

Yeah you may want to get a ps4 instead. For that price you couldn't get a pc for gaming.

 

[Jake Wenta]

How about this:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-4130 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor ($89.96 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: Biostar A960D+ Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($39.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Tactical 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($55.25 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 7790 1GB Video Card ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Sentey CS1-1410 PLUS ATX Mid Tower Case ($17.00 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: OCZ ZT 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $437.14
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-03 15:49 EST-0500)
~273 Pounds
And with black friday and cyber monday around the corner-and new gpu's. There'll be more deals.

 

[RyanDavidson]

How about this:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-4130 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor ($89.96 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: Biostar A960D+ Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($39.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Tactical 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($55.25 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 7790 1GB Video Card ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Sentey CS1-1410 PLUS ATX Mid Tower Case ($17.00 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: OCZ ZT 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $437.14
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-03 15:49 EST-0500)
~273 Pounds

That would be dollars not pounds Americans get components significantly cheaper than us at the u.k for eg. Discounts, mail in rebates and overall they are cheaper

 

[Jake Wenta]

That would be dollars not pounds Americans get components significantly cheaper than us at the u.k for eg. Discounts, mail in rebates and overall they are cheaper

I did make a conversion, and the sales that are to come-the PC would be a better choice over the console. You won't play maxed settings, but rather hgih on 720p. But regardless, you can do more on a PC than console which is really just for gaming with some additions. (And games on PC are cheaper)

 

[RyanDavidson]

That would be dollars not pounds Americans get components significantly cheaper than us at the u.k for eg. Discounts, mail in rebates and overall they are cheaper

I did make a conversion, and the sales that are to come-the PC would be a better choice over the console. You won't play maxed settings, but rather hgih on 720p. But regardless, you can do more on a PC than console which is really just for gaming with some additions. (And games on PC are cheaper)

The direct comparison from dollars to pounds on pc part pickers website is £341 not including case and ram as it does not show.

 

[JOOK-D]

That would be dollars not pounds Americans get components significantly cheaper than us at the u.k for eg. Discounts, mail in rebates and overall they are cheaper

I did make a conversion, and the sales that are to come-the PC would be a better choice over the console. You won't play maxed settings, but rather hgih on 720p. But regardless, you can do more on a PC than console which is really just for gaming with some additions. (And games on PC are cheaper)

The direct comparison from dollars to pounds on pc part pickers website is £341 not including case and ram as it does not show.

+1

More expensive in the UK. Would be better off getting something else other than a gaming PC. Especially if things like keyboard/mouse/speakers/monitor/operating system need to be included.

 

[Bellucchi]

I'm getting my son a gaming computer for Christmas my budget is £250 it is not much but which should I go for

 

[Bellucchi]

I have just built a personal computer of 270 pounds, but in shop you may find it for 500 pound or more. So if you have a knowledge of computer assembling, you should go on any of UK website that sells components, I recommend dabs.co.uk, order components you need and build it. It's easy see some videos on youtube how to do it. But be careful about choosing the right components. You definitely go with AMD APU, combine processor with graphic card, this one use socket FM2, so motherboard should have this socket.

 

[Jake Wenta]

I have just built a personal computer of 270 pounds, but in shop you may find it for 500 pound or more. So if you have a knowledge of computer assembling, you should go on any of UK website that sells components, I recommend dabs.co.uk, order components you need and build it. It's easy see some videos on youtube how to do it. But be careful about choosing the right components. You definitely go with AMD APU, combine processor with graphic card, this one use socket FM2, so motherboard should have this socket.

It's cheaper to go GPU+CPU rather than APU especially APU+GPU. APU's like faster ram, and ram speeds affect price, and for upgrade purposes-am3+ would be a better bet. (And a CPU>APU)

 

[RyanDavidson]

Jook-D is correct it's better to go for a ps4 or Xbox 1 especially as kook said you need to include monitor,keyboard,mouse,so and speakers where as the consoles are all in one the OP will also be getting better performance and he would not have to upgrade in 3 months or so.

 

[Bellucchi]

I have just built a personal computer of 270 pounds, but in shop you may find it for 500 pound or more. So if you have a knowledge of computer assembling, you should go on any of UK website that sells components, I recommend dabs.co.uk, order components you need and build it. It's easy see some videos on youtube how to do it. But be careful about choosing the right components. You definitely go with AMD APU, combine processor with graphic card, this one use socket FM2, so motherboard should have this socket.

It's cheaper to go GPU+CPU rather than APU especially APU+GPU. APU's like faster ram, and ram speeds affect price, and for upgrade purposes-am3+ would be a better bet. (And a CPU>APU)

 

[Bellucchi]

APU I have is a8-6600k 4.2 ghz with the graphic chip on it. That cost me 85 pounds. You can crossfire it with a few graphic cards from amd, that would be around 70. I only run apu without dedicated graphic card. I also get in 1833 MHZ of RAM, that is maximum for my mobo chipset. It's up to you which way you go. You can save money on case with psu inside. You can safe money on hard drive, 500 gb enough and on memory 4 gigs enough for start. This is all without monitor, if you have some unneeded TV screen you can built it very cheap.

 

[Jake Wenta]

APU I have is a8-6600k 4.2 ghz with the graphic chip on it. That cost me 85 pounds. You can crossfire it with a few graphic cards from amd, that would be around 70. I only run apu without dedicated graphic card. I also get in 1833 MHZ of RAM, that is maximum for my mobo chipset. It's up to you which way you go. You can save money on case with psu inside. You can safe money on hard drive, 500 gb enough and on memory 4 gigs enough for start. This is all without monitor, if you have some unneeded TV screen you can built it very cheap.

An APU is a CPU with a graphics chip intergated on the unit. You do not necessarily crossfire when adding another card. It doesn't really work like that. But as I stated, they're more expensive for their chips. Especially for the performance they deliver. And 1866 not 1833, but it's max for your memory controller. But it is still possible to overclock it-as my 8120 states 1866 as a max, but I run at 2200. The memory controller is integrated within CPU's and not motherboards now. And PSU's in cases are usually not as safe or reliable as getting individual ones. The power supply will be providing power to everything, and you want it to be safe and reliable-or you'd end the story with a tragedy. 500GB may be enough for you, but not most people.
As for a monitor, if you get a GPU, they have hdmi outputs, so you can just use your TV.

 

[Bellucchi]

First of all, memory controller is on amd chip, this you see when you buy cpu and what memory speed is allowed. This is not a problem but if your chipset on motherboard doesn't support speed of max for memory or memory controller you don't get max speed your pc will be crashing. I use word crossfire, it happens, amd use dual graphics. You can switch it over in BIOS. 500 gb is enough for people, but not for everybody who donwload junk staff and keep movies I guess. All cases with psu are safe and ROHS Compliant. I will translate this for you.
Restriction of Hazardous Substances Directive.

 

[Jake Wenta]

First of all, memory controller is on amd chip, this you see when you buy cpu and what memory speed is allowed. This is not a problem but if your chipset on motherboard doesn't support speed of max for memory or memory controller you don't get max speed your pc will be crashing. I use word crossfire, it happens, amd use dual graphics. You can switch it over in BIOS. 500 gb is enough for people, but not for everybody who donwload junk staff and keep movies I guess. All cases with psu are safe and ROHS Compliant. I will translate this for you.
Restriction of Hazardous Substances Directive.

Do you have the reading comprehension of a 12 year old?
I've stated the memory controller is on the CPU. CPU/nb (VCCIO for Intel) is the controller voltage. You can go higher than its rated frequencies by overclocking. And have it STABLE. And it is not called crossfire when you add a GPU to an APU. It's called Radeon Dual Graphics-formerly known as Hybrid Crossfire. It is called crossfire when you add a GPU to an exsisting AMD gpu of the same chip (GPU) and crossfire them.
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/313273-28-what-point-graphics-card

And defining an acronym is not translating. Please, if you want to insult someone and give out false information, go somewhere else.

 

[Bellucchi]

I said they now use dual graphics, ain't I that but you are right. PC you built is 450 dollars, you must be kidding, how much was custom tax you paid for your famous PC more than 20 percent. It won't be nearly 273 pounds. Or maybe you can advise me how to purchase cheap things I love from US, JAPAN or TAIWAN or HONK KONG without paying custom tax. Please be so kind.