AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition vs i3 3220

[lijith321]

hi, which core is better for future gaming with gtx 650 1gb....
games like GTA IV, V , battlefield...above....
Which core gets more FPS..?
Anybody know the windows score for AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition...?

 

[Gam3r01]

The 965 would be a better bet because most dual core processors cant keep up with most newer games. The 965 can run up to around a 650TI Boost Superclocked.

 

[lijith321]

but 965 is old core....right? and i heard i3 wil get more fps...?
dont knw which core i wnt to choose...!!! Is there AMD overheating problem??????

 

[Gam3r01]

Its an older processor, but it still has quad cores which pushes it beyond the i3. If you can get an i5 thats the best bet. Amd stock coolers are bad, but not overheating bad.

 

[catshannon]

Speaking from experience the 965 is the better choice and can easily go over 4ghz or 3.8 on stock cooler

 

[lijith321]

Its an older processor, but it still has quad cores which pushes it beyond the i3. If you can get an i5 thats the best bet. Amd stock coolers are bad, but not overheating bad.

sorry , i cant go for i5.....
i3 or 965..
with gtx 650

 

[catshannon]

Its an older processor, but it still has quad cores which pushes it beyond the i3. If you can get an i5 thats the best bet. Amd stock coolers are bad, but not overheating bad.

sorry , i cant go for i5.....
i3 or 965..
with gtx 650

get a 965 or FX8350 or FX6350

 

[catshannon]

Its an older processor, but it still has quad cores which pushes it beyond the i3. If you can get an i5 thats the best bet. Amd stock coolers are bad, but not overheating bad.

sorry , i cant go for i5.....
i3 or 965..
with gtx 650

Also what mobo do you have?

 

[lijith321]

Its an older processor, but it still has quad cores which pushes it beyond the i3. If you can get an i5 thats the best bet. Amd stock coolers are bad, but not overheating bad.

sorry , i cant go for i5.....
i3 or 965..
with gtx 650

Also what mobo do you have?

currently am using intel pentium dual core e5200, intel dg31pr..
anyway i wnt 2 change my mobo according to new core... AMD or intel i series...
my processor budget is arround 6500 INR....

 

[catshannon]

Its an older processor, but it still has quad cores which pushes it beyond the i3. If you can get an i5 thats the best bet. Amd stock coolers are bad, but not overheating bad.

sorry , i cant go for i5.....
i3 or 965..
with gtx 650

Also what mobo do you have?

currently am using intel pentium dual core e5200, intel dg31pr..
anyway i wnt 2 change my mobo according to new core... AMD or intel i series...
my processor budget is arround 6500 INR....

965 is a sure bet or find a cheap FX 63xx chip

 

[lijith321]

Its an older processor, but it still has quad cores which pushes it beyond the i3. If you can get an i5 thats the best bet. Amd stock coolers are bad, but not overheating bad.

sorry , i cant go for i5.....
i3 or 965..
with gtx 650

Also what mobo do you have?

currently am using intel pentium dual core e5200, intel dg31pr..
anyway i wnt 2 change my mobo according to new core... AMD or intel i series...
my processor budget is arround 6500 INR....

965 is a sure bet or find a cheap FX 63xx chip

any better fx 6xx chips for 6500INR???

 

[catshannon]

Its an older processor, but it still has quad cores which pushes it beyond the i3. If you can get an i5 thats the best bet. Amd stock coolers are bad, but not overheating bad.

sorry , i cant go for i5.....
i3 or 965..
with gtx 650

Also what mobo do you have?

currently am using intel pentium dual core e5200, intel dg31pr..
anyway i wnt 2 change my mobo according to new core... AMD or intel i series...
my processor budget is arround 6500 INR....

965 is a sure bet or find a cheap FX 63xx chip

any better fx 6xx chips for 6500INR???

you will have to look but dont get a 6100 or 6150 the 965 is better but if you can find a cheap 6350 or 6300 get it

 

[lijith321]

I think the only reasons to consider the AMD Phenom II X4 965 BE is it is quad core CPU.....!!!??right?

 

[lijith321]

am not going for fx....!!! i dnt hav tht mch budget...because i also want to buy new ,mobo,ram....

 

[catshannon]

Get the i3 3220 as it is 22nm ivy bridge and supports the latest instructions and has its own igpu. I know gta 4 and battlefield games should run fine. i3 holds it own against the 965 while having much bigger memory bandwidth:
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/102?vs=677

The 965 is much better with games

 

[montosaurous]

Neither... FX 6300 is your CPU. Less expensive than an i3, but better than both the 3220 and 965 BE. I wouldn't use a Phenom II x4 or i3 much longer anyways.

 

[catshannon]

Get the i3 3220 as it is 22nm ivy bridge and supports the latest instructions and has its own igpu. I know gta 4 and battlefield games should run fine. i3 holds it own against the 965 while having much bigger memory bandwidth:
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/102?vs=677

The 965 is much better with games

Thats where the i3 excels against the 965, games. These 2 cpu are about the same in multithreaded but tthe i3 memory bandwidth and ipc means games run better on it. Lets not forget taking 100w electricity less.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core-i3-2120-2100_5.html#sect0
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core-i3-ivy-bridge_5.html#sect0

Old benches also note the lack of the 965 being on there 4 cores and a nice over-clock makes the 965 pull away from ANY cpu in its price range no matter what application it is for

 

[Gam3r01]

Get the i3 3220 as it is 22nm ivy bridge and supports the latest instructions and has its own igpu. I know gta 4 and battlefield games should run fine. i3 holds it own against the 965 while having much bigger memory bandwidth:
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/102?vs=677

The 965 is much better with games

Thats where the i3 excels against the 965, games. These 2 cpu are about the same in multithreaded but tthe i3 memory bandwidth and ipc means games run better on it. Lets not forget taking 100w electricity less.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core-i3-2120-2100_5.html#sect0
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core-i3-ivy-bridge_5.html#sect0

Old benches also note the lack of the 965 being on there 4 cores and a nice over-clock makes the 965 pull away from ANY cpu in its price range no matter what application it is for

Exactly, the quad core processors that were in the range of performance as a 965 OC to 4.2 GHz were much more. On a budget the 965 is one of the best performance per dollar.

 

[catshannon]

Get the i3 3220 as it is 22nm ivy bridge and supports the latest instructions and has its own igpu. I know gta 4 and battlefield games should run fine. i3 holds it own against the 965 while having much bigger memory bandwidth:
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/102?vs=677

The 965 is much better with games

Thats where the i3 excels against the 965, games. These 2 cpu are about the same in multithreaded but tthe i3 memory bandwidth and ipc means games run better on it. Lets not forget taking 100w electricity less.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core-i3-2120-2100_5.html#sect0
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core-i3-ivy-bridge_5.html#sect0

Old benches also note the lack of the 965 being on there 4 cores and a nice over-clock makes the 965 pull away from ANY cpu in its price range no matter what application it is for

Exactly, the quad core processors that were in the range of performance as a 965 OC to 4.2 GHz were much more. On a budget the 965 is one of the best performance per dollar.

Loved that chip got it to 4.4ghz stable with a h100 so beast may be my fave cpu ever but i would go for a 6350 nowdays but the 965 is half the price nearly

 

[Gam3r01]

Get the i3 3220 as it is 22nm ivy bridge and supports the latest instructions and has its own igpu. I know gta 4 and battlefield games should run fine. i3 holds it own against the 965 while having much bigger memory bandwidth:
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/102?vs=677

The 965 is much better with games

Thats where the i3 excels against the 965, games. These 2 cpu are about the same in multithreaded but tthe i3 memory bandwidth and ipc means games run better on it. Lets not forget taking 100w electricity less.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core-i3-2120-2100_5.html#sect0
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core-i3-ivy-bridge_5.html#sect0

Old benches also note the lack of the 965 being on there 4 cores and a nice over-clock makes the 965 pull away from ANY cpu in its price range no matter what application it is for

Exactly, the quad core processors that were in the range of performance as a 965 OC to 4.2 GHz were much more. On a budget the 965 is one of the best performance per dollar.

Loved that chip got it to 4.4ghz stable with a h100 so beast may be my fave cpu ever but i would go for a 6350 nowdays but the 965 is half the price nearly

Yeah Im waiting for my 212 EVO to finally OC mine. After that its a 650ti Boost Superclocked next.

 

[catshannon]

Get the i3 3220 as it is 22nm ivy bridge and supports the latest instructions and has its own igpu. I know gta 4 and battlefield games should run fine. i3 holds it own against the 965 while having much bigger memory bandwidth:
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/102?vs=677

The 965 is much better with games

Thats where the i3 excels against the 965, games. These 2 cpu are about the same in multithreaded but tthe i3 memory bandwidth and ipc means games run better on it. Lets not forget taking 100w electricity less.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core-i3-2120-2100_5.html#sect0
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core-i3-ivy-bridge_5.html#sect0

Old benches also note the lack of the 965 being on there 4 cores and a nice over-clock makes the 965 pull away from ANY cpu in its price range no matter what application it is for

Exactly, the quad core processors that were in the range of performance as a 965 OC to 4.2 GHz were much more. On a budget the 965 is one of the best performance per dollar.

Loved that chip got it to 4.4ghz stable with a h100 so beast may be my fave cpu ever but i would go for a 6350 nowdays but the 965 is half the price nearly

Yeah Im waiting for my 212 EVO to finally OC mine. After that its a 650ti Boost Superclocked next.

OverclockersUK are selling H100s for 40£ atm not h100i but the difference is negligible

 

[jaguarskx]

At stock speeds between the PII X4 965 BE and the Core i3-3220 both have more or less similar performance in games that does not make use of more than 2 cores. Below are several CPU benchmarks with whatever high end graphics card in the various reviews.

While the quad core PII X4 965 (3.4GHz) is not list, the 6 core PII X6 1100T (3.3GHz) should be a good substitute since the difference in clockspeed is only 100MHz. None of the games benefits from 4 cores vs 6 cores since the quad core PII X4 980 (3.7GHz) outperforms the PII X6 1100T.

Crysis 3 has the largest difference in performance since it can take advantage of more than two cores, thus the Phenom II would be the better choice. Tomb Raider is another game that benefits from a quad core CPU, but the difference is not quite as large as with Crysis 3.

I have not listed any Battlefield 3 benchmarks, but in single player campaign mode there should be very little difference between the Phenom II and Core i3 CPUs since benchmarks have proven that only 2 core are used. However, benchmarks have proven that in multi-player mode, Battlefield 3 does in fact get higher performance with a quad core CPU. Therefore, the Phenom II would win over the Core i3. I would assume that will be the case for Battlefield 4 as well.

Overall, the quad core Phenom II and the dual core Core i3 CPUs will perform similarly in games using only 2 cores when both are at stockspeed. However, in games that can benefit from using more than 2 core, the Phenom II pulls out ahead. Add the fact the that the Phenom II X4 965 BE is overclockable, that means the X4 965 BE is overall the better of the two CPUs.

http://www.techspot.com/review/670-metro-last-light-performance/page6.html

http://www.techspot.com/review/655-bioshock-infinite-performance/page5.html

http://www.techspot.com/review/648-simcity-performance/page4.html

http://www.techspot.com/review/645-tomb-raider-performance/page5.html

http://www.techspot.com/review/642-crysis-3-performance/page6.html

http://www.techspot.com/review/615-far-cry-3-performance/page6.html

 

[lijith321]

Overall, the quad core Phenom II and the dual core Core i3 CPUs will perform similarly in games using only 2 cores when both are at stockspeed. However, in games that can benefit from using more than 2 core, the Phenom II pulls out ahead. Add the fact the that the Phenom II X4 965 BE is overclockable, that means the X4 965 BE is overall the better of the two CPUs.
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This isn't true as you can see from your graphs the i3 3220 destroys the phenom 2 x2 cpu at a few games for example Metro LN.

But i think future games requires 4 cores....right?? now the doubt is
1.Is there any temperature problem(heat)
2.willl this brand core last?? (dont know about AMD, used only Intel)...
3.I have coolermaster thunder 500w PSU...Is that enough for Phenom + gtx 650???

 

[montosaurous]

Overall, the quad core Phenom II and the dual core Core i3 CPUs will perform similarly in games using only 2 cores when both are at stockspeed. However, in games that can benefit from using more than 2 core, the Phenom II pulls out ahead. Add the fact the that the Phenom II X4 965 BE is overclockable, that means the X4 965 BE is overall the better of the two CPUs.
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This isn't true as you can see from your graphs the i3 3220 destroys the phenom 2 x2 cpu at a few games for example Metro LN.

The i3 even edges out the 965 on crysis 3 here.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/crysis-3-performance-benchmark-gaming,3451-8.html

Phenom II x2 not Phenom II x4. One has two cores, one has four. There is a difference.

 

[catshannon]

I was pointing out to jaguar that its not true when the phenom 2x2 get destroyed by the i3's so if performing similar to a core i3 with 2 cores in a phenom 2 like metro last night phenom 2 x2 28fps vs 57fps for i3 which is over double the fps not similar.

Simple terms you need 4 cores of a phenom 2 compete.

This point is only applicable in games that utilise only 2 cores