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The retail c chip are only a few bucks more that the oem ones. 6 bucks more for retail on a 1gig and only $25 more for a 1.2 gig
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good info. Would you buy the retail though? I've only bought the OEM, but I'm considering the retail. Is the HSF that comes with it random and/or is it any good??

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No I would buy oem too but there was this whole debate going on about by retail is better than oem. Everyone was saying that is 20% more expensive but that does not seem to be the case with the “C” chips. Just a fyi that’s all.
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I read on zdnet sometime ago that AMD are making less money per unit than Intel. They're doing that to do increase sale figures and secure a larger market share. This is likely to drive up their share prices.

There is nothing right now to justify the cost of intel p4 processors. Perhaps, when the next generation of the p4 is out and lots more software to make use of the p4 'optimizations'. In my opinion, this version of the p4 should never have been released!


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Haha yeh, right, you have to compare the price of the Athlon 1.33 to the P4 1.3, $10 difference, so it's not the price, it's the performance. P4 sucks. But Intel is no longer overpriced.

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With shipping roughly $280 for p4 1.3
$255 for the 1.33 T-bird. Still a 10% difference. But not bad. Hopefully they'll release their new P4 at these prices, but we both know they won't so we'll be left with the same dilemma.



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But Intel is no longer overpriced.


hjHHAHAHAHHA HA HAH AHAAH AHHA..... $766 for the new P4, right? $270 for the new 1.33GHz TBird, right? That's almost three times as much. Which one performs better? HAHAHAH AH AH AHHAHAH AHAHAH AHA.....

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This P4 is a POS but remember AMD did a similar thing with the Slot A Athlons......(only they were fast)

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Yeh and $54 for the new Cyrix 3. So what's your point? The price of the P4 and Athlon are close, clock for clock, the 1.3 v 1.33. I suppose if AMD released a 1.7GHz chip for $750, you would still compare the price of the 1.33? Of coarse the P4 still sucks, but it is competitively priced for people who still want it. If I were to build a new system RIGHT NOW it would probably be an Athlon system on the ALi chipset. I love the 760 but it is only available with a VIA southbridge on any motherboard I can think of. Really with all the changes taking place in architechture, I would rather wait to see what happens this fall. And I like my PIII system, so I will probably upgrade it. If no one realeses a new style PIII modified for the socket 370 I will probably opt for a 1GHz chip and overclock it.

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I said "Which one performs betteR". The Cyrix3 performs like a Duron 600. Doesn't count.

"I suppose if AMD released a 1.7GHz chip for $750, you would still compare the price of the 1.33"

Nope. The 1.7 would overpower the 1.33. The point is, P4 1.7GHz doesn't overpower the 1.33.

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I use an Ultra Creator 10 at the lab, it is far more powerfull than any PC supposedly, but I think it sucks. It all depends on what your doing. I agree with you that the P4 sucks, but by marketing standards, the price is right for the 1.3GHz speed.

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Looks like it will with the lack lusty computer sells going on. Supposenly the material cost to manufacture chips is rather cheap plus the T-Bird is proving to be able to go higher than AMD ever expected in the current core. So AMD is getting a break in producing faster chips without having to retool their plants with newer technology saving them and us money in the short run. Just think a 1.33mh T-Bird for less than $200!!! It is close. The big question is why even produce Durons when slower T-Birds will be less than $100?
 

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you would have to ask the same thing about the celeron,and p3

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cant we all just get along? NO it will never happen. Can't the democrats and republicans get along too? Intel had its grip for a long time. AMD maybe moving in, but who knows whats going to happen later. All I care is that the prices ARE going down on any chip I might get soon. I would rather have an AMD chip and a sweet video card than an intel system which is supposed to be the same. What matters is that the prices are going down for smart people that get behind the marketing propoganda from companies like Compaq, Dell, Gateway and HP.
 

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the palmino is suppose to come in before that. and form what i heard they have a 1.5 ghz with just a heatsink on it
and it also use as much power as the p3 does
 

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If we are comparing performance, 1.3GHZ P4 is equal to about 1GHz or less Thunderbird. That's $280 (p4) to $150. almost 2x as much.

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100w of heat??? Lets use ohm's law and figure out the current necessary for 100 watts. <b>Power = Current x Voltage</b>, therefore <b>Current = Power/voltage = 100w/1.75v = 57amps</b>. 57amps!!! :eek: Now not all the electrical power used by the cpu is converted into heat so I doubt very much that a 1.6ghz T-Bird would produce 100w of heat. Especially if it is only using 60-70 watts total. My 400w power supply can only supply 30amps at +5 volts. Not sure of the real heat output and I could be wrong, anyone can enlighten us?

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actually a TBird 1.6GHz <i>does</i> produce 100watt of heat. read tom's article and also download Radiator, a program that tells you how much wattage your cpu produces. (a 1GHz Duron produces 54w)

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<b>Wow!!!!</b> Vapor Chill or water cooling needed. Well I don't mind having a volcano in my box as long as it works. That didn't sound right, oh well :smile: .