Discussion AMD R5 430 Again

[WilliamV_1450]

Thanks for closing my previous thread on the AMD Radeon R5 430 graphics card. ???
Looking back...

Rogue Leader said:
"However the board this person is using is significantly older, straight up ancient, its at least 16 years old, and many boards like that are not happy running newer PCIe GPUs."

It's not 16 years old. Although manufactured in 2006, the BIOS (up)dates it to 2008, which would make it 15 years old. Nearly 16, but not quite.
Still though...
Thanks for denigrating my motherboard and computer.

Rogue Leader said:
"Its interesting you mention PCIe 1.0 because 1.0 is the spec that will almost always have issues. 1.1 is when the backwards compatibility starts."

The board is PCIe 1.1 and it is FORWARD compatible.

Oh... Before I forget; To Philip Corcoran:
It turns out that the R5 430 card was faulty. So, Tommy Two Tone66 WAS correct with that he said. I have since gotten another of the same card and it works. On the same 15 year old ASUS M2V board with the PCIe 1.1 version on it.

Sorry to be passive aggressive 🤣 but you WERE incorrect with what you said.
So, now I suppose I'll get banned like Tommy Two Tone66 for also being correct.

 

[dotas1]

Thanks for closing my previous thread on the AMD Radeon R5 430 graphics card. ???
Looking back...

Rogue Leader said:
"However the board this person is using is significantly older, straight up ancient, its at least 16 years old, and many boards like that are not happy running newer PCIe GPUs."

It's not 16 years old. Although manufactured in 2006, the BIOS (up)dates it to 2008, which would make it 15 years old. Nearly 16, but not quite.
Still though...
Thanks for denigrating my motherboard and computer.

Rogue Leader said:
"Its interesting you mention PCIe 1.0 because 1.0 is the spec that will almost always have issues. 1.1 is when the backwards compatibility starts."

The board is PCIe 1.1 and it is FORWARD compatible.

Oh... Before I forget; To Philip Corcoran:
It turns out that the R5 430 card was faulty. So, Tommy Two Tone66 WAS correct with that he said. I have since gotten another of the same card and it works. On the same 15 year old ASUS M2V board with the PCIe 1.1 version on it.

Sorry to be passive aggressive 🤣 but you WERE incorrect with what you said.
So, now I suppose I'll get banned like Tommy Two Tone66 for also being correct.

I had read the previous thread since the day you made it and I will have to agree with the mods that it was a high probability to be incompatible due to legacy-uefi issues. It turns out it wasn't. That does not change the fact that next time you have a similar issue the same high probability will be again due to legacy-uefi issues.

The mods were arguing with Tommy because he never considered anything beside the GPU being faulty although there are numerous threads about the incompatibility of uefi-legacy boards-gpus and I can confirm I have seen a fair amount of those.

I don't know why tommy was banned but I can assure you that most of the times I read a post he made was him arguing with someone else about him being correct and that he knows best.

Also you came here and asked for advice for your problem. They gave you for free as all advices and recommendations are on this forum. If you disagree or don't like it, no issues there, but there is no reason for you to be dismissive or absolute that we don't need information we ask you to provide. We may have a reason you haven't think of or we need to search a bit more about it and the extra info would help.

That's my two cents. I am glad you solved the issue by the way, have fun with the system!

 

[Rogue Leader]

Thanks for closing my previous thread on the AMD Radeon R5 430 graphics card. ???
Looking back...

It was closed because another member whom you have pointed out, took it upon himself to not even consider other possibilities and derail your thread. This member is well known for causing issues on this forum, hence he is no longer a member of this forum. You had not responded to any of the multitude of suggestions for 2 days. We apologize this had happened (I did not close the thread btw) as sometimes unfortunately other members ruin a thread for the op.

Rogue Leader said:
"However the board this person is using is significantly older, straight up ancient, its at least 16 years old, and many boards like that are not happy running newer PCIe GPUs."

It's not 16 years old. Although manufactured in 2006, the BIOS (up)dates it to 2008, which would make it 15 years old. Nearly 16, but not quite.
Still though...
Thanks for denigrating my motherboard and computer.

15,16, does it really matter? I was hardly denigrating your board however in PC terms it IS ancient especially because hardware does deteriorate over time. PCs in regular use over that long of a term can turn out unreliable. Depends on how it was used, the environment it was in, etc. And within the context of the discussion the age of the hardware is completely relevant.

Rogue Leader said:
"Its interesting you mention PCIe 1.0 because 1.0 is the spec that will almost always have issues. 1.1 is when the backwards compatibility starts."

The board is PCIe 1.1 and it is FORWARD compatible.

You're taking this out of context in my reply to Tommy. And we are talking about BACKWARDS compatibility, as in the ability for a PCIe 3.0 card to work in a PCIe 1.1 slot. That is BACKWARDS compatibility.

Oh... Before I forget; To Philip Corcoran:
It turns out that the R5 430 card was faulty. So, Tommy Two Tone66 WAS correct with that he said. I have since gotten another of the same card and it works. On the same 15 year old ASUS M2V board with the PCIe 1.1 version on it.

Sorry to be passive aggressive 🤣 but you WERE incorrect with what you said.
So, now I suppose I'll get banned like Tommy Two Tone66 for also being correct.

And I'm glad that was the issue and you could resolve it. You need to remember we are NOT physically in front of your computer and we are only able to rely on the words you have posted and our knowledge of hardware to reply. We can't test things, we can't look we can only speculate where you can try. Tommy completely dismissed anything other than his answers. However while faulty GPU was correct, your motherboard is in the age range for incompatibility to be a possible answer. Again we are dealing with older hardware so even if it SHOULD work sometimes it doesn't. We as a forum have a responsibility to also prevent you from spending money needlessly on solutions given to you that may not be correct. Lets theoretically say you just ran with bad gpu, went out and bought a new one and that didn't work either. Well now you're out $X on a GPU you can't use. Based on the age of your hardware PCIe incompatibility is a real possibility.

There is no need for you to be passive aggressive, so before you denigrate those trying to help you maybe try looking at it from their shoes. Again, we are a bunch of volunteers helping you FOR FREE over the internet with only the information you present and our knowledge to work from. We aren't miracle workers. And in the same respect when there is more than one possibility ALL need to be considered.

I don't know why tommy was banned but I can assure you that most of the times I read a post he made was him arguing with someone else about him being correct and that he knows best.

It is our policy to not discuss the banning of users, however as someone active on the forum you can easily figure out why Tommy is no longer here.