AMD Radeon HD 5770 Hits Streets Early

[Bloodblender]

Yes, in Australia a few shops have listed it on their websites.

 

[noob2222]

[citation][nom]edilee[/nom]You guys are aware Nvidia 300 series cards are going to smoke ATI's 5800 cards right? Nvidia has ALWAYS been the video card king. ATI has been making a good showing of late and that is good for all of us since it creates price wars which benefits us.ATI's 5800 cards I have seen tested only slightly outperformed Nvidia's current line up (not talking about $$) and they should do just that but the margin was very small. Nvidia is in no rush to get their cards out...DX11 games aren't even around yet so why rush the product out?Don't get me wrong I am a huge AMD fan and I am enjoy seeing them putting out some decent vid cards but I have always used Nvidia cards since they always have higher performance hands down. It is just odd to hear so many people say how ATI is "hurting" Nvidia because it released it's cards first. They are getting some of the premature DX11 market but they might be pissed when they see what Nvidia presents us with.[/citation]
Nvidia had to go back to the drawing board and set their release back 6 months so they can make it better. Better make sure you have plenty of lube ready when they release it, they will stick it to you like they always have.

 

[anamaniac]

[citation][nom]japnoise99[/nom]It may be same specs as a 4870. However I'd buy a 4870 with DX11 and Eyefinity any day.[/citation]
Price is comparable, performance is likely comparible, ecept for DX11, eyeinfinity, and lower power usage (for those with weaker PSUs that want to go for CF).

I like.
Too bad I want a 5870 2GB instead...

Regardless, nice and cheap, expecially the 5850.

 

[anamaniac]

Though, honestly, with the performance of these cards, they somehow feel more along a 56xx line.
The 46xx was comparable with the 38xx, and the 47xx was essentiually the 40nm test run.

The 57xx seems to be on par with the 48xx, so will there even be a 56xx or 53xx?

 

[xrodney]

[citation][nom]anamaniac[/nom]Price is comparable, performance is likely comparible, ecept for DX11, eyeinfinity, and lower power usage (for those with weaker PSUs that want to go for CF).I like.Too bad I want a 5870 2GB instead...Regardless, nice and cheap, expecially the 5850.[/citation]
Waiting for 2GB 5870 as well, 1GB could be low for 2560x1600 and add to it few more monitors and it run out of videomemory at such resolutions.

 

[ttnuagmada]

Anand has already benched the 5770 and 5750. It looks like they're complete duds to be honest. The 128 bit mem bus seems to be a huge bottleneck as the 5770, which in all other specs matches the 4890, can barely keep up with a 4850 in most cases. For the same price you can get a 4870, and it will be a decent bit faster. Seems like a pretty big trade off just for dx11 support.

http://anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3658&p=5

 

[belardo]

Why is he edilee quote here? He didn't even post on this thread.

I thought I saw it somewhere else but as going to reply... as his nVidia fanboy response was funny. I use BOTH.

To EDILEE: Uh... the 5870 competes against the GTX295. So you calling "nVidia better" is a joke. You're comparing a single-GPU 5970 ($380) to a much larger/hotter/louder GTX 295 ($450~600, with recent price drops) which has TWO GPU chips.

For the under $80 market.. the new GT220 costs more than the 4670 and doesn't even come close to matching the 4670 in performance... and its Nvidias first DX 10.1 card to boot.

Calling nVidia is ALWAYS king is plain silly. The ATI 9700/9800 dominated over the entire GF-5800/5900 series. I own/ed both (I still have the 9800pro). Even against the GF 7800/7900 - the ATI 1900 series was always faster... but nVidia has a better low-med range with their 6600~7600GTs.

When the 8800GTX/GTs ($600/400) came out - first DX10 cards - ATI didn't even come close with their HD2900s... But the $200 8800GT was almost as fast as the $500+ 8800GTX... by that time, ATI's 3800s came out at about $150~200 and the game was on. Then the GTX 260/280s came out - dominated everything. But 1-2 weeks later the 4800s came out, they were a little bit slower... but only costs about $200/$300 (4850/4870) - much cheaper than GTX's $400/600 price tags... ATI had kicked nVidia in the balls - HARD. Within days, the prices of GTX cards came down and the GTX 260/216 came out to compete against the 4850.

Then much of 2008~2009 has been problematic with GeForce failures and nVidia playing product-name games with everyone! 9400 is a 8600, the 9800GT is a renamed 8800GT, etc... about 10 variants of the G92! The 9800s should have been "8900GTS / GTX / GT".. and todays GTX 2xx cards should be "9x00" cards considering ALL 8000/9000/ G200s are DX10 parts. Whatever happened to the GTX 180? What a bloody mess. Won't be surprised if nVidia comes up with a completely new name for their DX11 cards... perhaps "GeForce GTX 680-1T Pro" for all we know.

It's going to be about 6 months before we see a DX11 GeForce card... by then, ATI's going to have their 5890 card... maybe a 5900 for all we know.

Think about this... 5800 is a HUGE success for ATI. The 5800 was a complete failure for nVidia.

 

[anamaniac]

[citation][nom]xrodney[/nom]Waiting for 2GB 5870 as well, 1GB could be low for 2560x1600 and add to it few more monitors and it run out of videomemory at such resolutions.[/citation]
=D

I plan on running 3x 2048x1152 resolution. Something that a 1GB will have a hard time handling with AA and AF maxed.

 

[fonzy]

Nvidia had to go back to the drawing board and set their release back 6 months

Are you serious? the 68xx series cards will probably only be a few months away by then.Nvidia had better come out with there new cards this year or they will get destroyed this round...if they already haven't.

 

[claudeb]

the specs look super retarded good for the brice.

 

[Sushi Warrior]

WOW. WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU GUYS BLOWING YOUR LOADS FOR?!!?!! It loses to the 260, it costs more.... all it has is DX11 (which it useless ATM) and lower power consumption. The 4870 or 4890 or 260 would be a MUCH MUCH MUCH better option.

 

[claudeb]

[citation][nom]Sushi Warrior[/nom]WOW. WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU GUYS BLOWING YOUR LOADS FOR?!!?!! It loses to the 260, it costs more.... all it has is DX11 (which it useless ATM) and lower power consumption. The 4870 or 4890 or 260 would be a MUCH MUCH MUCH better option.[/citation]
look at the core clock and memory clock. 850 and 1200(4.8) with 800 stream processors. 4870 is 750 and 900(3.6) 800 sps. both have 1gb mem.

 

[Ehsan w]

[citation][nom]japnoise99[/nom]It may be same specs as a 4870. However I'd buy a 4870 with DX11 and Eyefinity any day.[/citation]

yes and because people like you pay for stupid things like that, that makes them do this...over and over again

 

[shotgunpadre]

this one goes right into notebooks. 128 bit will probably reduce energy consumption.

 

[jerreece]

I'm glad ATI/AMD is pushing their video cards out quickly. Hopefully nVidia will get off their seats and get moving to compete.

I found a very good review/benchmark of the ATI 5770 at Tech Spot.

http://www.techspot.com/review/209-ati-radeon-hd-5770/

Looks like the GTX 260 & ATI 4870 both perform a little better than the 5770. However, the 5770 uses less power, is slightly smaller, and has DirectX 11 support. All three cards are around $160 at this point.

With more driver optimization as ATI moves forward, this 5770 could be a rock solid mainstream video card.

 

[dingumf]

4890 kicks its butt in every benchmark and only cost $10 more.

???

And when I say every benchmark, I don't just mean games.

 

[noob2222]

[citation][nom]dingumf[/nom]4890 kicks its butt in every benchmark and only cost $10 more.???And when I say every benchmark, I don't just mean games.[/citation]
Kinda hard to compare when you are trying to say a flooded market card thats now available for wholesale prices is soo much better than a card that costs $10 more just because its faster. AMD can't set prices retail to sale price because thats just plain dumb business sense. You have to think with both sides, retail vs retail is the only way to look at price comparisons because in a few months the new cards will be on sale after they have overstock. Had AMD set thier new card prices to compete with the sale prices, well, think about it.

 

[belardo]

And keep in mind that Nvidia is EOLing the GTX200 series since they can't compete against the 5800s. (GTX260~295) Who'd spend $350~400 on a card that is slower than a $250 5850?

 

[belardo]

OOPS! Also forgot, looks like nVidia is getting out of the CHIPSET business. This *maybe* a good thing for gamers and nVidia too.

Remember, if you're an AMD or Intel user, you'd have to buy an nVidia chipset to use SLi. Well, many people would rather stick with their CPU matching chipsets... and that means more CF sales... sometimes.

So it means that nVidia will most likely release SLi for free. Afterall, whats in it for AMD or intel to PAY for the license for SLi?

 

[fatkid35]

mmmmmmmm, me likey! was looking at a 4770. think i'll wait till i can get one of these locally now.

 

[Ehsan w]

[citation][nom]anamaniac[/nom]Though, honestly, with the performance of these cards, they somehow feel more along a 56xx line.The 46xx was comparable with the 38xx, and the 47xx was essentiually the 40nm test run.The 57xx seems to be on par with the 48xx, so will there even be a 56xx or 53xx?[/citation]

maybe the performance might get a boost from dx 11 games later on?
it better be....or it's gonna be useless

 

[overshocked]

Ahhh, the 5770.

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