AMD Radeon HD 7000 Series OEM Models Revealed

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Borisblade7

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So they are repackaging the old hardware as the new stuff by just changing the numbers so they can pretend its something new? I know this is done alot, but still thats really dirty and dishonest.
 

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Nvidia has been doing this for many years.

In the beginning, Nvidia created the GeForce 8800 GT, and we were happy.
Then, we then got a faster version: the 8800 GTS 512MB. It was more expensive, but we were still happy. And then it got complicated - The original 8800 GT, well, it became the 9800 GT. Then they overclocked the 8800 GTS and it turned into the 9800 GTX. Now this made sense, but only if you ignored the whole "this was an 8800 GT to begin with!" thing.
 

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The trip gets a little more trippy when you look at what happened on the eve of the Radeon HD 4850 launch. NVIDIA introduced a slightly faster version of the 9800 GTX called the 9800 GTX+. Note that this was the smallest name change in the timeline up to this point, but it was the biggest design change; this mild overclock was enabled by a die shrink to 55nm.

All of that brings us to where NVIDIA is taking the 9800 GTX+ and calling it a GeForce GTS 250...

This goes on and on...
 

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It's really too bad that they didn't take advantage of their 28nm fabrication at the very least. I guess they need to ramp up supply for their parts that are actually new.
 
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damn, I gotta say, it's a dick-move. all the cards from 7350 to 7670 are the very same HD6000 cards, only the first digit is now "7" instead of "6". they should've only made 3 cards this time: 7700, 7800, 7900 and that's it
 
[citation][nom]Borisblade7[/nom]So they are repackaging the old hardware as the new stuff by just changing the numbers so they can pretend its something new? I know this is done alot, but still thats really dirty and dishonest.[/citation]
it has a different bios, thats something different......it possibly even has a slightly different pcb, different stepping chips, support different hdmi/display port standards. Just because it has the same core GPU doesnt make it exactly the same.
 

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luckily this is mostly the junk you get when you buy those name brand premade systems at retail. Most people who get those are stupid anyway and wouldnt know the the difference. So putting a 7 a 6 or even the letter Q in front wont matter, they are clueless anyway. At most they see the number in the store and think they are getting the newer stuff when compared to another identical system that has the 6 in front when really they arent. But they also dont know if its the newest chip from a pocket watch or a supercomputer either. In the end, you screw over the retarded, the rest of us in the minority are fine.
 

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Both AMD and Nvidia have rebranded graphics products dating back far before g92. It's nothing unusual people, stop trying to put AMD up on a pedestal. They have done it before and they will do it again.
 
They may be repackaging hardware but it's sad to know that Nvidia still has no answer for it. Even if they are repackaging the older lower end, Nvidia has no answer. Which if you think about it, it's great logic from the standpoint of a company. That's more R&D money you have to spend, why spend on a lower end that Nvidia can't compete with.

Afterall, it has been about 2 gens that AMD has basically been dominating lower end and Nvidia still hasn't shown they can catch up at the cheaper cards. The latest attempt (550 Ti) failed since the 6790 costs less but performs much better.
 

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"it has a different bios, thats something different......it possibly even has a slightly different pcb, different stepping chips, support different hdmi/display port standards. Just because it has the same core GPU doesnt make it exactly the same."

Exactly +1
 

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[citation][nom]Godlover1133[/nom]My 5770 will hold out until the 8000 series[/citation]
that 6870 is looking really good for the price.

It's not a bad thing that AMD re-brands old GPU's. They get cheaper all the time. at this rate, a 7970 will be a 12, 470 for 60$ new in 5 years from now ;)
 

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It's not a bad thing that AMD re-brands old GPU's. They get cheaper all the time. at this rate, a 7970 will be a 12, 470 for 60$ new in 5 years from now
You do realize within 5 years those wont even be worth taking out of the garbage, right?
 


Actually the 8800GT (G92) and the 8800GTS (G92) were different due to the core counts (112 for the GT Vs 128 for the GTS).
 

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[citation][nom]bluekoala[/nom]that 6870 is looking really good for the price.It's not a bad thing that AMD re-brands old GPU's. They get cheaper all the time. at this rate, a 7970 will be a 12, 470 for 60$ new in 5 years from now[/citation]
u sure that u can find gtx 470 5 years from now ??
 

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I just can't wait for AMD new 8xxx cards in the future, which is a re-brand of the current 7xxx cards, which was a re-brand of older 6xxx cards, which was a re-brand of 5xxx cards, which was ....
 

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People shouldn't complain about this practice, since it really works out the best for everyone:

1) The consumer purchasing an OEM machine isn't going to know all that much about parts in the machine, so they are happy they are getting and new sounding video card at a reasonable price.

2)The OEM manufacturer is happy because they can advertise that they have the "newest" and "latest" hardware (even though they know it's not) because it is AMD that is giving it a hyped-up phoney name, not them, so they are not lying to the consumer.

3) AMD is happy because they get a short boost in demand for some of their previous generation chips so they can make room for the newer ones in the pipeline.

4) Then, finally, true 7000 series chips come out for all the enthusiasts to buy - all made possible by the success of the previous chip generation.

It's really a win-win-win-win.
 
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Cheap GPUs are meant to be cheap. Therefore, the cheaper 40nm process is a better fit for the low cost segment.

OTOH, Pulling an Nvidia and making every other flagship GPU a re-badge of last generations flagship is extremely dishonest, I pity the sucker who upgraded his 8800GTwhatever to a 9800GTwhatever.
 
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