News AMD Radeon RX 5300: Navi 14 May Be Back for More

Agreed. This seems really unlikely - that 3GB thing was a bit of a crippler even on the cut-down variant of the 1060. AMD hasn't ever done that, and I find it hard to believe they'd start doing so now. This product's supposed specs just seem really strange.

I'm gonna take it with a larger boulder of salt than the usual rumor.
 
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Not sure why anyone would bother. You can pick up an RX550 or RX570 for probably less than this will cost. Or a 1650.

In other news, comparing ALU's, texture units and so forth between two wildly different architectures doesn't mean anything whatsoever.
 

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Not sure why anyone would bother. You can pick up an RX550 or RX570 for probably less than this will cost.
Hmmm... there's a pretty big gap between the two. What about The RX 560?

I think it'd be nice to see a step up from the RX 550 & RX 560, that can scale down to 50 W for potential passive cooling and launch with a street price as low as ~$100.

I have a 4 GB RX 550 that's a nice little card to have around to throw in a box for debugging/troubleshooting, or to slap in a server if I get frustrated with its BMC. They hopefully won't forget about that ~$100, 50 W market segment, but it doesn't usually get a proper refresh every generation. The RX 550 replaced my old HD 5450, which I think was passively-cooled.
 
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A new 3GB GPU in an age where 4GB is already getting awfully tight? That would be sad, especially with no 3.0x16 or affordable 4.0x8 motherboards to fall back on once VRAM has filled up.
It would be a budget card, so I wouldn't be completely shocked. If the bus is cut down, they will be 3GB or 6GB. Better yet, both. A 3GB model would be a good replacement for the old 2GB 500 series cards, and a hypothetical 6GB version would likewise be far better than say a 4GB 560 - both in terms of grunt and bandwidth. Hopefully they price them right and work with vendors to liquidate older 550/560 budget cards.
Not sure why anyone would bother. You can pick up an RX550 or RX570 for probably less than this will cost. Or a 1650.
A 550 is no competition for one of these. Even a 560 doesn't come close. A 570 is a decent budget option while supply lasts, for sure.

Side note: If an uncut Navi 14 is 24 CUs, they should release a 5500 XTX or something to help fill in that gap between Navi 14 and Navi 10 XT.
 
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It would be a budget card, so I wouldn't be completely shocked. If the bus is cut down, they will be 3GB or 6GB. Better yet, both. A 3GB model would be a good replacement for the old 2GB 500 series cards, and a hypothetical 6GB version would likewise be far better than say a 4GB 560 - both in terms of grunt and bandwidth. Hopefully they price them right and work with vendors to liquidate older 550/560 budget cards.

A 550 is no competition for one of these. Even a 560 doesn't come close. A 570 is a decent budget option while supply lasts, for sure.

Side note: If an uncut Navi 14 is 24 CUs, they should release a 5500 XTX or something to help fill in that gap between Navi 14 and Navi 10 XT.
You're assuming based on gaming performance. Gamers make up a comically small % of pc users. The 550 is fine for multiple monitors, htpc use and general office applications. It even does a fine job at low end gaming. I know, I have one. I can play many steam games, android games and even doom 2016 on it just fine. Ended up putting it in my htpc to replace the intel 530 graphics, and that was a big upgrade.

The 5300 is going to go into the same usage model, probably at a higher price, and without any significant advantages other than AMD not having to make 5xx cards anymore.
 

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You're assuming based on gaming performance. Gamers make up a comically small % of pc users. The 550 is fine for multiple monitors, htpc use and general office applications.
2GB may be getting a little tight even for desktop uses: I currently have 3GB allocated out of 18GB GPU-addressable (that's 2GB VRAM + 16GB system) and almost 2GB of it is common everyday stuff like FireFox, Chrome, Skype, Steam, etc.

When I play games, I often have to disable hardware acceleration in FF and Chrome due to low VRAM causing severe performance and graphics glitching issues so I wouldn't recommend 2GB for anything beyond the most casual of casual 3D use. I was in practically the same boat with my 1GB HD5700 four years ago: severe performance issues (could rarely get GPU core load above 60%) from having only ~350MB of free VRAM after the OS and background apps when most games allocated well over 1GB.

The viability of 2GB GPUs for modern OSes and software is almost over, better off using IGP/APU at that point.
 
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