Perhaps wait for testing after the 4070ti comes out as well, so you can do and publish a SD-benchmark test update
keep in mind, people have stock in nvidia as well, so this whole point it kinda of moot.
If the only difference you actually see is just in the puddles you need your eyes checked.But it is mostly just fancy puddles. Snipped the image below from some fanboy bragging about RT perf that looks kind of silly.
Not only that, people are acting like similar affects are not possible on cards without RT cores.
GTX 1660 Ti running CP2077 at 1080p:
when ?? THAT is the question. right now, its not as a big of a deal to some, as other make it out to be.
To be pedantic, like I replied in another thread: it's the vapour chamber which has a potential design flaw or defect and it only expresses itself when the GPU is horizontally mounted (which would be the big majority anyway) and it doesn't show problems when vertically mounted.
and the most expensive XTX the stores here, is still LESS then the bottom level entry 4080, whats your point ?
the overheating issue, has NOTHING to do with the rt and dlss is not worth the cost for some people as they wont use it, so what was the point of bringing the overheating issue up ? did debauer say the same things about nvidia and its 16 pin connector ?
Not necessarily.
if there were only a handful of burnt connectors with the 4090 cards, that would be user error, but with the amount that there has been, is a design flaw, plain and simple. the " user error " nvidia is claiming, is BS and is just them passing the blame to someone else
news flash, we get the same thing when it comes to nvidia and intels products, again, point is ?
Well... If der8auer's numbers are to be believed, the amount of cards he received information from are way more than the official figure nVidia quoted of affected cards (~100 vs ~50). And, potentially, ALL AMD reference cards are affected and will present the problem if used horizontally, which sucks for AMD and, more importantly, the users.
as i said in another thread, if it was only 10 cards or less, that could be user error, cause as you mention via debauer if it really is 100 or more cards, thats a design flaw, NOT user error, and nvidia useing " user error " as a reason is pure BS, and just them trying to pass the buck to some one else. 2 or 3 friends were looking to get an rtx 40 series card, cause of the connector, they won't be. even after they read about it being " user error " they are still going to pass on those cards, and either keep what they have, wait to see if the connector gets a version 2, or go with a Radeon card.
not really, they said nothing for what 2, 3 weeks ? after this melted connector was reported on. looks like amd has said something about it with in days of this being reported on.
um yea ok sure, there are games that have come out that dont support RT since the rtx 20 series, and prob some new games since, dont support RT. and again WHY upscale if the card you buy runs at the resolution that you want at the FPS you are comfortable with ? it make NO sense to use upscaling in that use case AT ALL
yea the steam survey really shows what the WHOLE gaming market uses for video cards. at best its a guide line, nothing more. i have used steam off an on for a few years now, and not once have i been asked to take that survey, NOT ONCE. i know a few at work who dont even use steam, and they use nvidia and radeon cards. quoting steam numbers, is almost laughable.
the same could be said about you and caring so much for rt and DLSS, whats your point ? a few friends i have, also dont care that much about RT or DLSS, mostly cause of the performance hit, and they also run at native res, vs upscaling.
maybe, but in resterization, its close enough that if a person doesn need RT and DLSS, then im sure they would rather save the $200-$300+ .
on the contrary, it IS nvidia's problem, as THEY chose to use that connector, and now they have to replace the cards, directly or not ( AIBs) that still costs them. BTW, it also looks like it is ONLY " founders edition " cards, cards that are custom, or use custom coolers, look to be fine
and you are sure that ALL the cards that melted have been accounted for ?? as Fran mentioned above, the amount of cards that have melted could be quite a bit higher
just like nvidia was ?
as i said in another thread, if it was only 10 cards or less, that could be user error, cause as you mention via debauer if it really is 100 or more cards, thats a design flaw, NOT user error, and nvidia useing " user error " as a reason is pure BS, and just them trying to pass the buck to some one else. 2 or 3 friends were looking to get an rtx 40 series card, cause of the connector, they won't be. even after they read about it being " user error " they are still going to pass on those cards, and either keep what they have, wait to see if the connector gets a version 2, or go with a Radeon card.
not really, they said nothing for what 2, 3 weeks ? after this melted connector was reported on. looks like amd has said something about it with in days of this being reported on.
it is difficult to say which is worse in the end though
um yea ok sure, there are games that have come out that dont support RT since the rtx 20 series, and prob some new games since, dont support RT. and again WHY upscale if the card you buy runs at the resolution that you want at the FPS you are comfortable with ? it make NO sense to use upscaling in that use case AT ALL
yea the steam survey really shows what the WHOLE gaming market uses for video cards. at best its a guide line, nothing more. i have used steam off an on for a few years now, and not once have i been asked to take that survey, NOT ONCE. i know a few at work who dont even use steam, and they use nvidia and radeon cards. quoting steam numbers, is almost laughable.
the same could be said about you and caring so much for rt and DLSS, whats your point ? a few friends i have, also dont care that much about RT or DLSS, mostly cause of the performance hit, and they also run at native res, vs upscaling.
for the game i play, RT does NOTHING to improve the graphics, all it does it make the shadows more defined, thats it, and cost me 20-30 FPS in the process. a couple of friends that do play other games with better RT support, get this, they turn it OFF, why ? frame rate hit, is too much and it doesnt make their games look any better. RT isnt important now, maybe when 4090 performance can be had in a 4060 class card, then sure, till then lets try to agree that its 50-50 when it comes to RT
but they wont, why ? cause they made the choice to get an amd card. and the performance hit, isn't that bad with RT on. it is worse then with an RTX, but not that bad
maybe, but in resterization, its close enough that if a person doesn need RT and DLSS, then im sure they would rather save the $200-$300+ .
on the contrary, it IS nvidia's problem, as THEY chose to use that connector, and now they have to replace the cards, directly or not ( AIBs) that still costs them. BTW, it also looks like it is ONLY " founders edition " cards, cards that are custom, or use custom coolers, look to be fine
and you are sure that ALL the cards that melted have been accounted for ?? as Fran mentioned above, the amount of cards that have melted could be quite a bit higher
just like nvidia was ?
but i believe nvidia also had input on the connector.
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