AMD Resurrects K8 Architecture for 2008 Roadmap

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monsterrocks

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K10 is 40% faster on a variety of workloads; Baron was completly right.

...Ohh and did I mention that I meant 40% faster than Pentium 3s? :bounce: :lol:
 

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Nice try, but incorrect. Why would AMD keep making 90nm parts? You yourself said isn't not cost effective. And it will only slow down their 45nm conversion.

They didn't up 65nm because they increased the gate oxide by 25%. Maximum clockspeed (at the same thermals) will be LESS than at 90nm.

Even if you think that's FUD.. what is the highest SKU AMD plans to sell on 65nm Brisbane?
Here's their 90nm parts: http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/ProductInformation/0,,30_118_9485_13041%5E13076,00.html
6400+ 3.2 Ghz 90nm SOI 2MB socket AM2 125W
6000+ 3.0 GHz 90nm SOI 2MB socket AM2 125W
5600+ 2.8 GHz 90nm SOI 2MB socket AM2 89W

Where are they planning to go on 65nm?
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=9899
The AMD Athlon 64 X2 5600+ will be the first to jump on the new 65nm K8 bandwagon with a 65W TDP. The previous Windsor-based chip of the same featured an 89-Watt TDP. AMD will also add 100 MHz to the core frequency of the Athlon 64 X2 5600+, now rated at 2.9 GHz. Total L2 cache will be halved in the move to the Brisbane core, and the updated Athlon 64 X2 5600+ chips will feature only 1MB of L2 cache. Availability of these processors is scheduled for Q1 2008.

AMD's higher-end Athlon 64 X2 6400+ and Athlon 64 X2 6000+ will both be discontinued.


Boy... that sure sounds to me like they held off the transition to 65nm so it wouldn't compete with the 90nm part. They don't want to compete with themselves to badly, they'll discontinue the fastest parts to do it!
 

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On the topic of cars.... It’s funny how a 4 cylinder car can keep up with some 8 cylinder cars. (Subaru vs. American.... turbo vs. naturally aspirated (not v8 forced intake)). Also, how some Porsche’s boxer 6 cylinder can take out some of Ferrari’s 12 cylinders. (this becomes a question of better gearing and who can get more power to their wheels with moving the least amount of weight. The Elise or the Exige are good examples of light weight but incredibly powerful cars.




But as for processors.... they have the same amount of cores, we were originally told that they was just as powerful. It’s like saying the Phenom in a stock civic, from 93 vs. a new stock STi (being Clovertown). Who will win? AMD said the civic would... :pfff:


Ok enough car talk.