News AMD Ryzen 5 5500X3D listing hints at most affordable 3D V-Cache CPU yet — socket AM4 rides again

[Admin]

AMD could be preparing another mainstream CPU with 3D V-Cache.

AMD Ryzen 5 5500X3D listing hints at most affordable 3D V-Cache CPU yet — socket AM4 rides again : Read more

 

[nightbird321]

Here's to hoping we'll see more than a slab of 64MB 3D cache this generation since they are handing these out so cheaply now.

 

[Notton]

No one remembers the microcenter exclusive 5600X3D?

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

Whilst the chip itself isn't anything we haven't seen already, it stands out to me even more than before the is the longevity of the AM4 socket. 7 years and still getting new CPU support! I'm not sure we'll ever see it again. Fair play, AMD.

 

[KermNelson2]

Well a really appreciate it. I'm on a Gigabyte X570 Gaming X and using a AMD 5 3600 so I'm looking to upgrade away from the security flaws that they won't fix on my 3000 series.

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

Well a really appreciate it. I'm on a Gigabyte X570 Gaming X and using a AMD 5 3600 so I'm looking to upgrade away from the security flaws that they won't fix on my 3000 series.

You've a nice selection of chips to choose from. I'd prob go for the 5700x3d if I were in your shoes.

 

[Makaveli]

Here's to hoping we'll see more than a slab of 64MB 3D cache this generation since they are handing these out so cheaply now.

You will see it on the lower tier Zen 4 models I think before Lower tier on Zen 5

 

[usertests]

Here's to hoping we'll see more than a slab of 64MB 3D cache this generation since they are handing these out so cheaply now.

Seems unlikely:
AMD Ryzen 9000X3D “Zen 5” CPUs To Feature Same 3D V-Cache As Ryzen 7000X3D: 9950X & 9900X With 128 MB, 9800X3D With 96 MB L3

You will see it on the lower tier Zen 4 models I think before Lower tier on Zen 5

nightbird is asking for more, like two cache chiplets, multiple layers, or something new.

It looks like we won't get anything like that until Zen 6.

 

[King_V]

Intriguing no matter how you think about it. I'm definitely curious as to what the price ends up being.

But if the reason for this is to help with selling AM4 motherboard inventory, maybe it's that the prices of those boards aren't coming down to where they should be? I was recently looking at getting a board to give my son's old 1600AF a home, and the price, even of budget boards, was more than I was willing to spend new, and used prices were sending me back looking at the new boards again.

I lucked into a new (open box) B450 board on Ebay that was close to what I was looking for, with a price I was happy with. But that really was luck/good timing. It was cheaper than every used AM4 board I'd encountered thus far, outside of proprietary HP/Dell/etc boards.

EDIT: I should specify that I was looking for A320, B350, and B450 boards, as wanted to have the option of the full range of AM4 CPUs in, rather than having Zen/Zen+ cut out of the picture.

 

[KermNelson2]

You've a nice selection of chips to choose from. I'd prob go for the 5700x3d if I were in your shoes.

Thanks Roland of Gilead, I've been debating TDP and cost on the whole 5000 series. As far as gaming my largest test is Stellaris w/ST New Horizons.

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

Thanks Roland of Gilead, I've been debating TDP and cost on the whole 5000 series. As far as gaming my largest test is Stellaris w/ST New Horizons.

That game isn't the most demanding. Do the mods cause more usage? Either way a 5700x3d will allow you to max that out with the right GPU, and allow for other more demanding games. The boost would be big for the most part. Good luck with whichever CPU when you get it

 

[dcathcart65]

Well a really appreciate it. I'm on a Gigabyte X570 Gaming X and using a AMD 5 3600 so I'm looking to upgrade away from the security flaws that they won't fix on my 3000 series.

I hear ya! I am on Asus X470 Prime Pro with a 3700X. I was going to pick up a 5800X3D and a new card, currently rocking a 3060. But with the total cost, I may just go with a new AM5/7800X3D/DDR5 build this Black Friday.

 

[Dntknwitall]

No one remembers the microcenter exclusive 5600X3D?

They should ring it to the mass market. It would be a hot seller. I bet this 5500x3d is not pcie 4.0 like the non x3d part, aswell. It will be a dead cpu used in pre-builts like the 5500.

 

[Dntknwitall]

This is going to be a pcie 3.0 cpu, which will hinder it's performance. Why don't they just release the 5600X3D to the mass market? It will sell like hotcakes here in Canada because the 5700X3D is over priced here. You are better to just buy a 5800x for the same price as the 5700X3D.

 

[salgado18]

This is going to be a pcie 3.0 cpu, which will hinder it's performance. Why don't they just release the 5600X3D to the mass market? It will sell like hotcakes here in Canada because the 5700X3D is over priced here. You are better to just buy a 5800x for the same price as the 5700X3D.

I don't think that people still on AM4 and looking at a cheap CPU will spend on PCI-E 4.0 hardware.

That said, I agree on the 5600X3D.

 

[Notton]

This is going to be a pcie 3.0 cpu, which will hinder it's performance. Why don't they just release the 5600X3D to the mass market? It will sell like hotcakes here in Canada because the 5700X3D is over priced here. You are better to just buy a 5800x for the same price as the 5700X3D.

Why do you think it will be a PCIe 3.0 CPU?
5800X3D, 5700X3D, 5600X3D are all 4.0 capable, so long as you pair it with a B450 or X470 mobo.

 

[dalauder]

No one remembers the microcenter exclusive 5600X3D?

I do, but it was more than I was willing to pay, then OOS.

 

[dalauder]

I don't think that people still on AM4 and looking at a cheap CPU will spend on PCI-E 4.0 hardware.

That said, I agree on the 5600X3D.

I bought a 3600X at launch, back in 2019. Part of that was so that I'd have long-term platform support and PCI-e 4.0. I've had a flagship PCI-e 4.0 SSD for 3+ years. There's no way I downgrade to half my bandwidth.

So long as a 5500X3D is CLEARLY better than the 3600, I might be in the market. I've got 192GB of DDR4 sitting around and so I'm not excited to move on to AM5. I'll probably do AM6 at first launch though.

 

[dalauder]

Well a really appreciate it. I'm on a Gigabyte X570 Gaming X and using a AMD 5 3600 so I'm looking to upgrade away from the security flaws that they won't fix on my 3000 series.

That's where my family's at. We've got 4 desktops running DDR4--two with Ryzen 3000 series. I really want to wait for AM6 to upgrade.

 

[King_V]

Why do you think it will be a PCIe 3.0 CPU?
5800X3D, 5700X3D, 5600X3D are all 4.0 capable, so long as you pair it with a B450 or X470 mobo.

Wait, hang on, I thought that, ultimately, only the B550 and X570 supported PCIe 4.0 for AM4.

Which 450/470 boards support PCIe 4.0? I remember looking into this a little bit relatively recently, but don't find anything. Admittedly, it was a very hasty search.

 

[Notton]

Wait, hang on, I thought that, ultimately, only the B550 and X570 supported PCIe 4.0 for AM4.

Which 450/470 boards support PCIe 4.0? I remember looking into this a little bit relatively recently, but don't find anything. Admittedly, it was a very hasty search.

Yes those. you are correct!

 

[Amdlova]

Still uses a optane 900p 280gb pci 3.0 card. Don't see any improvement over a new solidgm p44 pro 1tb pci 4.0. Even a Intel 970 has the same "consumer limitations".
On graphics card you will loose one or two fps over pci 4.0

Only the 8x graphics card suffer on pci 3.0 aka 4060/7600xt
A old pci 3.0 motherboard it's fine and cheaper

 

[King_V]

Only the 8x graphics card suffer on pci 3.0 aka 4060/7600xt

Barely.

 

[TJ Hooker]

Why do you think it will be a PCIe 3.0 CPU?
5800X3D, 5700X3D, 5600X3D are all 4.0 capable, so long as you pair it with a B450 or X470 mobo.

The normal R5 5500 uses the APU die (Cezanne), which only supports PCIe 3.0. I think that is why they thought the 5500X3D would be PCIe 3.0. I am assuming that the 5500X3D will use Vermeer die (same as other 5000X3D parts) though.