News AMD Ryzen 5 7500F Allegedly Coming Soon, No iGPU Support

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Seems normal. Not every I/O die will be perfect, or maybe product segmentation?

I'm using a 13900kf right now. I've had to use an iGPU on a system not intended to use one to fix a faulty vbios, to use a video card without display outs, and to troubleshoot PCIe issues that were coming from "dried" liquid metal. I don't see myself coming across any of those things soon. I also have no intention on using quicksync.
 
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Without any lack of official confirmation from AMD it's hard to assume this chip indeed lacks an igpu. Because the MAJOR selling point of Zen 4 was the fact that it finally has an iGPU, as claimed by AMD, so this new SKU means AMD is changing it's policy or their roadmap ?

Also, we have zero evidence that iGPU yields were poor, and/or the ZEN 4 CPUs had a high rate of failure to begin with. Why will AMD just COPY Intel's naming scheme from their book, is beyond me ? They could face a backlash if they do.

Just because Intel uses F in the nomenclature doesn't mean AMD will follow suit. Even if it DOES, they would be directly copying INTEL's naming scheme which makes little sense to me, TBH.

But anyway, chances are high that this CPU would most likely be an ASIA-only exclusive SKU, or maybe some OEMs may use this in their pre-built systems. Though, it would be good if this SKU launches for the DIY segment as well, but it's hard to come to any conclusion as of now. I'm not fully convinced.

Although, the Korean retailer claims this chip indeed doesn't pack an iGPU so its very similar to Intel's "F" chips, but we don't have any concrete evidence. Also, the original TWEET got deleted for no reason which raises more questions than answers.

If this indeed turns out to be true, then this chip could either be a defective "Raphael" single-CCD MCM with a disabled iGPU, or maybe this is based on the recently released 4nm Phoenix-2 "monolithic" silicon/die. Because, Phoenix-2 has a die size of 137 mm² and only features max 6 "Zen 4" CPU cores, and an iGPU with only 4 RDNA 3 CUs.
 
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I wouldn't save the $10 for no igpu. At some point it'll be handy. Maybe not until it's no longer your main system, maybe while building your system, upgrading, who knows.

If it's $40 cheaper then maybe, but with current GPU prices it means you're committed to pairing a gpu with it forever which is expensive and requires a bigger case and bigger power supply.
 
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I wouldn't save the $10 for no igpu. At some point it'll be handy. Maybe not until it's no longer your main system, maybe while building your system, upgrading, who knows.

If it's $40 cheaper then maybe, but with current GPU prices it means you're committed to pairing a gpu with it forever which is expensive and requires a bigger case and bigger power supply.
Umm no, just no. Desktop non-g Ryzen has been lacking an igpu for 5 years now and all of the sudden ,when ryzen 7000 comes with an igpu, you complain that a sku without an igpu Will require a discrete gpu. Please…spare me your conditional opinion making.
 

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Umm no, just no. Desktop non-g Ryzen has been lacking an igpu for 5 years now and all of the sudden ,when ryzen 7000 comes with an igpu, you complain that a sku without an igpu Will require a discrete gpu. Please…spare me your conditional opinion making.
Lol. Well I wouldn't save $10. That's a fact. And I'm running intel in my machine, also a fact. I have several 5600g's in other computers in my house. Those are facts. Because I don't buy cpu's without IGP's unless I have to.
 
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This is like the cheaper nvme drives without DRAM. Is that hit really worth $10-15? No, no it is not. Unless of course they have reworked the memory controller and using 4 sticks at once (who knew people would use 4 when you put 4 slots on the board?) isn't an utter, completely useless, slow as molasses situation.
 
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For me, having a CPU with an integrated graphics is VERY important. There have been several times that an iGPU has saved my day when my discrete GPU died, and the RMA took more than a week or so.

Without an igpu, there was no other option but to buy a discrete card just to access my PC, but the onboard graphics saved me from this hassle. :)