AMD Ryzen 7 1700 or i7 7700k - Streaming

[eXawNcs]

Hello! I've been wanting to upgrade my computer for quite a while now, ever since I heard about Ryzen.
I was wondering, whether I should get an i7 7700k or a R7 1700, I want to stream and make videos and even though the 1700 has a slightly worse performance in gaming I thought it'd be better to get it to take advantage of the extra cores while streaming.

I'd like to hear your opinions.

 

[MrN1ce9uy]

After doing some searches I'm seeing that even the Ryzen 7 1700 beats the 7700K in streaming.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzq3wI1sH1I

https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/5xked9/ryzen_1700_vs_intel_i7_7700k_for_streaming/

 

[cbag]

It doesn't seem like any pro reviewers go into that kind of use. Strange really... I would assume the Ryzen would handle the loads better considering some of the shadowplay (gaming only) benchmarks show the i7 being taxed really high CPU >80% use while the Ryzen is in the <50% use range.

 

[Zerk2012]

After doing some searches I'm seeing that even the Ryzen 7 1700 beats the 7700K in streaming.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzq3wI1sH1I

https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/5xked9/ryzen_1700_vs_intel_i7_7700k_for_streaming/

That was a test set up by AMD both chip were clocked to 3.0 and in no was shows the real performance of the 7700K
For the above test yes you use 50% of the total processor but still get worse performance.
This is the only real in game performance marks I have seen.
https://www.pcper.com/reviews/Processors/AMD-Ryzen-7-1800X-Review-Now-and-Zen/Gaming-Performance

 

[MrN1ce9uy]

After doing some searches I'm seeing that even the Ryzen 7 1700 beats the 7700K in streaming.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzq3wI1sH1I

https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/5xked9/ryzen_1700_vs_intel_i7_7700k_for_streaming/

That was a test set up by AMD both chip were clocked to 3.0 and in no was shows the real performance of the 7700K
For the above test yes you use 50% of the total processor but still get worse performance.
This is the only real in game performance marks I have seen.
https://www.pcper.com/reviews/Processors/AMD-Ryzen-7-1800X-Review-Now-and-Zen/Gaming-Performance

I don't see where the 7700K was @ 3.0GHz.

 

[Zerk2012]

After doing some searches I'm seeing that even the Ryzen 7 1700 beats the 7700K in streaming.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzq3wI1sH1I

https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/5xked9/ryzen_1700_vs_intel_i7_7700k_for_streaming/

That was a test set up by AMD both chip were clocked to 3.0 and in no was shows the real performance of the 7700K
For the above test yes you use 50% of the total processor but still get worse performance.
This is the only real in game performance marks I have seen.
https://www.pcper.com/reviews/Processors/AMD-Ryzen-7-1800X-Review-Now-and-Zen/Gaming-Performance

I don't see where the 7700K was @ 3.0GHz.

That video was made at the tech show everything was controlled by AMD they even did a BF1 comparison but never showed the FPS.

 

[chemmajorp53]

The problems with the streaming test wasn't the clocks, it was that they weren't using QuickSync on the 7700K, which really improves the performance. That being said I'd still rather have an OC'ed R7 1700 for streaming.

 

[Soldi3r]

The problems with the streaming test wasn't the clocks, it was that they weren't using QuickSync on the 7700K, which really improves the performance. That being said I'd still rather have an OC'ed R7 1700 for streaming.

Testing with QuickSync wouldn't make much sense considering the huge difference in image quality (unless you use something like ultrafast as CPU preset). Also, NVENC is better than QS from personal experience, but that could be different on newer CPUs/GPUs.

 

[chemmajorp53]

It would if you were specifically focusing on streaming to twitch, which only allows you to use low bitrates. If you were streaming at a high bitrate then yeah QuickSync would look terrible compared to not using it

 

[Soldi3r]

It would if you were specifically focusing on streaming to twitch, which only allows you to use low bitrates. If you were streaming at a high bitrate then yeah QuickSync would look terrible compared to not using it

The difference is even more apparent at lower bitrates. NVENC (which from personal experience is better than QS, a test using KabyLake would be interesting) is great for high bitrate, aka recording to disk/shadowplay.

 

[awi5951]

The ryzen part is better for streamers. Yes the 7700k wins at games by 10 to 15 percent but it looses at multicore by 50 percent to the 1700. Ryzen can do cpu encoding in OBS and not effect gameplay at the same time so it wins. Most streamers use two pcs to stream ryzen eliminates that.

 

[sloke123]

If streaming gameplay is the main concern.. Then how about using i7-7700k and NVENC as an encoder? Using NVENC, you may have some fps drop but it will compensated by i7-7700k's 10-15% fps boost..
I'm using i5 2500k with gtx 970.. Streaming in 720p@30, is not an issue..

 

[rderubeis]

i stream at 720 @60fps on my 7700k with no issue at all. Not sure y people are hating on the i7 6700k and 7700k for streaming it does great

 

[sloke123]

i stream at 720 @60fps on my 7700k with no issue at all. Not sure y people are hating on the i7 6700k and 7700k for streaming it does great

Totally agree with you, Intel i7 series processors are great. Recently update my rig with i7 7700k.

 

[Berteanu]

i stream at 720 @60fps on my 7700k with no issue at all. Not sure y people are hating on the i7 6700k and 7700k for streaming it does great

Yes, but if you want to stream at 1080p60? i7 would not be so great