News AMD Ryzen 7 3800X Glides Past Intel Core i9-9900K In Leaked Geekbench Numbers

So.. the single-core results are assumed to be at the maximum boost clock of each CPU? 5.0GHz single core for 9900K and 4.5GHz single-core for the 3800X?

*Nevermind, I think it's that we simply don't know yet.
 

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they are surely gimping the 9900K because even my 8700K @4.8 ghz all core boost and 5.0 ghz single core boost scores much higher.. AMD cheating?


 

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Ryzen 7 3800X chip has twice as much L2 & L3 cache overall per core than the Intel i9-9900K. For single thread workloads the the clock speed frequency is probably a more important factor, but in multi-thread workloads at least heavily multi-core ones that extra L2/L3 cache size per core probably adds up to a bigger overall difference . There is also the thermal throttling to consider on Intel side under heavy multi-core load.
 

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they are surely gimping the 9900K because even my 8700K @4.8 ghz all core boost and 5.0 ghz single core boost scores much higher.. AMD cheating?
The benchmark shows the 9900K beating your processor, what are you looking at? These are scores directly from Geekbench, AMD has nothing to do with the intel benchmark. The one image that is lower than your processor is because they are using 2133Mhz memory to match what the AMD score is using.
 

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they are surely gimping the 9900K because even my 8700K @4.8 ghz all core boost and 5.0 ghz single core boost scores much higher.. AMD cheating?


The huge drop in multicore performance implies that the MDS and Meltdown patches were applied and enabled. One of the problems with the Intel vs AMD benchmarks is that most Intel benchmarks don't apply the patches and leave the Intel chip running in a vulnerable state to artificially boost benchmark scores.
 

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they are surely gimping the 9900K because even my 8700K @4.8 ghz all core boost and 5.0 ghz single core boost scores much higher.. AMD cheating?


Fanboyism at its best.
A benchmark not even published by AMD => AMD cheating.
What next? Intel cannot release 10nm Desktop CPU this year => AMD cheating?
GLobal warming => AMD cheating
 

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Fanboyism at its best.
A benchmark not even published by AMD => AMD cheating.
What next? Intel cannot release 10nm Desktop CPU this year => AMD cheating?
GLobal warming => AMD cheating
You forgot to add in "girlfriend leaving you => AMD Cheating" lol
 

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The huge drop in multicore performance implies that the MDS and Meltdown patches were applied and enabled. One of the problems with the Intel vs AMD benchmarks is that most Intel benchmarks don't apply the patches and leave the Intel chip running in a vulnerable state to artificially boost benchmark scores.
im just pointing out the fact that my 8700k with all the latest bios and patches scores higher than the 9900k in the test, im not a fanboy by anymeans but ther testing is wrong.. and the rest are a bunch of AMD fanbois
You forgot to add in "girlfriend leaving you => AMD Cheating" lol
Fanboyism at its best.
A benchmark not even published by AMD => AMD cheating.
What next? Intel cannot release 10nm Desktop CPU this year => AMD cheating?
GLobal warming => AMD cheating
The benchmark shows the 9900K beating your processor, what are you looking at? These are scores directly from Geekbench, AMD has nothing to do with the intel benchmark. The one image that is lower than your processor is because they are using 2133Mhz memory to match what the AMD score is using.

THIS IMAGE .. you blind??
 

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i wouldve thought AMD trashed the intel scores but no, its just a clickbait post. and with a bunch of amd fanbois being the knight in keyboard armor to save the day.. im done with toms and these Just Buy It types of articles..bunch of inept primates who thinks AMD knows best,,, bleh, go fuck lisa su and pay her for that too.. thats how much you ppl are suckin in amds balls
 

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im just pointing out the fact that my 8700k with all the latest bios and patches scores higher than the 9900k in the test, im not a fanboy by anymeans but ther testing is wrong.. and the rest are a bunch of AMD fanbois
The point is that the Intel results listed in the article seem to just be some results that Tom's found on geekbench, they weren't generated for the purpose of this comparison. They are not associated with AMD in anyway. The 3800X results weren't presented/generated by AMD either. Accusing AMD of "cheating" makes no sense in this context.

Also, your RAM is running at 3200 MHz. The results for the 9900K are with 2133 MHz RAM (for reasons explained in the article).
 
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The point is that the Intel results listed in the article seem to just be some results that Tom's found on geekbench, they weren't generated for the purpose of this comparison. They are not associated with AMD in anyway. The 3800X results weren't presented/generated by AMD either. Accusing AMD of "cheating" makes no sense in this context.

Also, your RAM is running at 3200 MHz. The results for the 9900K are with 2133 MHz RAM (for reasons explained in the article).
does that mean
"AMD Ryzen 7 3800X Glides Past Intel Core i9-9900K In Leaked Geekbench Numbers"
this is the most clickbait title ive seen this year, i can get my cpu to well over 6000 points in single core score but i keep it at a speed and temps so i can run it 24/7
.... this article is misleading and should be changed, i came in all happy thinking that waiting for the zen2 is gonna be worth it.. but no.. its just a misleading article.
 

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does that mean
"AMD Ryzen 7 3800X Glides Past Intel Core i9-9900K In Leaked Geekbench Numbers"
this is the most clickbait title ive seen this year, i can get my cpu to well over 6000 points in single core score but i keep it at a speed and temps so i can run it 24/7
.... this article is misleading and should be changed, i came in all happy thinking that waiting for the zen2 is gonna be worth it.. but no.. its just a misleading article.
Why is it misleading? They're comparing both CPUs at stock with 2133 MHz RAM. Do you feel that the title implies that a 3800X beats a 9900k under any condition (e.g. OC'd)? Because with a title like that I think most people would assume an apples to apples comparison (i.e. both at stock) unless stated otherwise.
 
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I am feeling so teased!

Ryzen R9 3900X........what does it do???

ANY reviews and benchmarks out their.

ABOUT THE RAM: It only gets better for a Ryzen at 3200Mhz plus.
GSKILL 3600MHz Ram HAS BEEN ON THE MARKET SOME TIME.
I feel the R7 CPU only likes it at 3200Mhz and that the 3333Mhz is pushing with an R7 2XXX CPU.

https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/13617934
R7 2700 an 3200Mhz Ram

browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/13617934
 
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im just pointing out the fact that my 8700k with all the latest bios and patches scores higher than the 9900k in the test, im not a fanboy by anymeans but ther testing is wrong.. and the rest are a bunch of AMD fanbois



No! You were NOT "just pointing out the fact". You were accusing AMD cheating on a benchmark site that they have no control or affiliation with.
Then you call us fanboy... wtf
Ok so the "non-fanboy" please explain how the testing result of INTEL CPU on a 3rd-party benchmark site IS related to AMD cheating?
 
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No! You were NOT "just pointing out the fact". You were accusing AMD cheating on a benchmark site that they have no control or affiliation with.
Then you call us fanboy... wtf
Ok so the "non-fanboy" please explain how the testing result of INTEL CPU on a 3rd-party benchmark site IS related to AMD cheating?
i said "AMD cheating?" see the question mark.. AMD could very well do the test and submit the score online.. as I said, looking at the 9900K score which was way lower than my 8700k.. i made it a point that everyone should see that the 9900k score is lower.. I DID NOT ACCUSE AMD of cheating, merely pointing out the possibility.
 

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Why is it misleading? They're comparing both CPUs at stock with 2133 MHz RAM. Do you feel that the title implies that a 3800X beats a 9900k under any condition (e.g. OC'd)? Because with a title like I think most people would assume an apples to apples comparison (i.e. both at stock) unless stated otherwise.
it is misleading because it implies that the 3800X beats the 9900K no matter what, does not say what settings, what hardware, and glides past refers to easily beating... which it is not in this case.. i would really like to see the 3800X beat the crap out of a 9900K coz it will be a better market for us consumers.. but the fact that the title is a click bait is un-professional and misleading, to everyone except people who already know
 

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The fact of the matter is the tests are not done with the same hardware, if AMD had used 3200 mhz, pretty sure the multi thread score would beat the 9900K but not the single thread score... i believe intel will still have the single core IPC lead. thus the title "GLIDES PAST" is not true and misleading when only 2133 mhz is used for the tests to compare both.
 

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The fact of the matter is the tests are not done with the same hardware, if AMD had used 3200 mhz, pretty sure the multi thread score would beat the 9900K but not the single thread score... i believe intel will still have the single core IPC lead. thus the title "GLIDES PAST" is not true and misleading when only 2133 mhz is used for the tests to compare both.
Well the test is made to be fair because the Ryzen 7 3800X could support up to 4600MHz memory so if i was to buy that processor and slap in something like the Team T-Force Xtreem 16gb (2x8) at 3800MHz pretty sure it could easily beat the single and multi score and remember the i9 9900K can only support up to 2666MHz memory so there is a major leap there and remember as well they're comparing a Ryzen 7 to a i9 so what would happen if they did a test the Ryzen 9 vs the i9 instead cause this is something you have to think about as well which in my book the Ryzen 7 is a win and another thing that would make it a win still is the price between the 2 since most Ryzen 7's out there would cost as much as 300$ (almost 400$ for the 3800X) while this i9 is a 500$ chip and a good chance the Ryzen 9 will be to 500$ which remember that is also a 12 core 24 thread processor and while i loved using Intel in the past i find AMD is finally doing better especially for gamers out there that would like to play the newer titles and not pay an arm and a leg for a high end processor cause i got a feeling the 3700/3700X will be within the 300$ range so really as someone that uses both AMD and Intel i find that AMD is better right now and just to let you know right now my desktop is better graphically but my laptop is better in CPU performance since my desktop is a Ryzen 5 2400G with a RX 570 and my laptop is a i7 8750H with a GTX 1650.
 

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Well the test is made to be fair because the Ryzen 7 3800X could support up to 4600MHz memory so if i was to buy that processor and slap in something like the Team T-Force Xtreem 16gb (2x8) at 3800MHz pretty sure it could easily beat the single and multi score and remember the i9 9900K can only support up to 2666MHz memory so there is a major leap there
The official rated speeds for the 3800X and 9900K are 3200 MHz and 2666 MHz, respectively. Both of them are capable of running memory faster than that (although with the Intel that requires a Z series motherboard), at which point it is technically an overclock.
 

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I am feeling so teased!

Ryzen R9 3900X........what does it do???

ANY reviews and benchmarks out their.

ABOUT THE RAM: It only gets better for a Ryzen at 3200Mhz plus.
GSKILL 3600MHz Ram HAS BEEN ON THE MARKET SOME TIME.
I feel the R7 CPU only likes it at 3200Mhz and that the 3333Mhz is pushing with an R7 2XXX CPU.

https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/13617934
R7 2700 an 3200Mhz Ram

browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/13617934
good score from a 2700, my 8700K score is quite good too when background apps are closed, I wonder what the 2700X scores when overclocked.
https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/13655257
 

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Well the test is made to be fair because the Ryzen 7 3800X could support up to 4600MHz memory so if i was to buy that processor and slap in something like the Team T-Force Xtreem 16gb (2x8) at 3800MHz pretty sure it could easily beat the single and multi score and remember the i9 9900K can only support up to 2666MHz memory so there is a major leap there and remember as well they're comparing a Ryzen 7 to a i9 so what would happen if they did a test the Ryzen 9 vs the i9 instead cause this is something you have to think about as well which in my book the Ryzen 7 is a win and another thing that would make it a win still is the price between the 2 since most Ryzen 7's out there would cost as much as 300$ (almost 400$ for the 3800X) while this i9 is a 500$ chip and a good chance the Ryzen 9 will be to 500$ which remember that is also a 12 core 24 thread processor and while i loved using Intel in the past i find AMD is finally doing better especially for gamers out there that would like to play the newer titles and not pay an arm and a leg for a high end processor cause i got a feeling the 3700/3700X will be within the 300$ range so really as someone that uses both AMD and Intel i find that AMD is better right now and just to let you know right now my desktop is better graphically but my laptop is better in CPU performance since my desktop is a Ryzen 5 2400G with a RX 570 and my laptop is a i7 8750H with a GTX 1650.
any intel platform thats based on the Z series can support upto 4800+ using intel XMP, so basically overclocking the ram automatically by selecting the appropriate XMP profile in UEFI BIOS, even AMD supports XMP but sometimes, XMP on AM4 platform used to be sketchy but should be fine by now.

The official rated speeds for the 3800X and 9900K are 3200 MHz and 2666 MHz, respectively. Both of them are capable of running memory faster than that (although with the Intel that requires a Z series motherboard), at which point it is technically an overclock.
yep, the advertised supported speeds are 2666 for intel and 3200 for AMD, this doesn't mean much if you use any overclock - able motherboard with support for XMP /DOCP (for asus)
 
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