News AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D Arrives April 20 for $449: Report

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AMD's Ryzen 7 5800X3D is reportedly set to launch on April 20, with a price of $449.

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[-Fran-]

Yikes. That's way too steep. Unless they really make the i7 12700/K/KF looks bad, which I seriously doubt, AMD is pushing this one to the limit.

So, this song is for AMD and their 5800X3D!

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Olgn9sXNdl0


Regards xD

 

[wifiburger]

I don't think AMD is serious about consumer market. What is this trash price ?

100$ less you get a 5800x, who cares about the small performance loss.
For 100$ more you get 12900k, iGPU +extra 8 cores.

no value into paying premium for 8core from AMD; zen3 is too old & Intel cpus are available / cheaper

 

[cryoburner]

I don't think AMD is serious about consumer market. What is this trash price ?

100$ less you get a 5800x, who cares about the small performance loss.
For 100$ more you get 12900k, iGPU +extra 8 cores.

no value into paying premium for 8core from AMD; zen3 is too old & Intel cpus are available / cheaper

The prices don't seem too bad compared to Intel's 12th-gen offerings.

The 5600X is a little faster than the 12400, so the 5600 with slightly lower clocks should offer comparable performance to that processor, at a comparable price, especially once the lower motherboard costs for a given feature set are taken into account.

The 5800X tends to often manage higher application performance than the 12600K, and comes relatively close to it in gaming performance, so again, a 5700X with slightly lower boost clocks and a similar price should be directly competing there as well. I guess there's also the 12700F for a little more that might be a slightly better option for multi-threaded workloads, but again, both it and it's motherboards are priced a bit higher.

And the 5800X3D is hard to say at this point. AMD was calling it "The world's fastest gaming processor" at CES, so if it tends to outperform Intel's highest-end options at gaming and certain other workloads, there will probably be a decent market for it.

So the prices look to be par for the course with Intel's latest offerings. A little underwhelming, as they don't really appear to offer any significant value over the competition, but not bad. Really though, with the exception of the 5800X3D, these processors arguably should have come out a year ago. The 5600 and 5700X were originally rumored to be launching in early 2021, albeit priced slightly higher. But, AMD likely realized that Rocket Lake wasn't going to regain the performance crown, and knew they couldn't keep up with supply at the lower price points, so they just focused on the higher-end parts, and didn't launch these to avoid undercutting themselves. At this point, the processors are probably fine at these price points, but aren't likely to turn many heads when Intel is already offering similar value. Then again, these are just rumored prices, and might not even be accurate.

 

[watzupken]

To be honest, I am not thrilled by the price. Even though its got the fancy 3D cache, the price makes the chip too close to the R9 5900X which offers 50% more cores. For gaming, the 5900X may not be as fast, but at higher resolution, I really don’t think the 3D cache is going to make a material difference in performance. Whereas the extra 50% cores is going to benefit multithreaded CPU intensive work, which the cache is not able to make up for.
This is not a product that AMD intends to bring to the market to begin with. If not because of the shocking performance uplift offered by ADL, I think AMD would have waited till Zen 4 to release the 3D cache. At this point in time, I feel it will be very difficult to recommend this chip because for existing AM4 board users, the chip may be too expensive, and/or, offers too little consistent performance uplift to upgrade. The cache benefits some games and apps, so performance uplift is not across the board. For people buying a new system, the price and the limited lifespan of AM4 is likely going to put people off. The price may not be as bad because a cheap B550 board should easily allow the chip to run at its full potential, unlike on an Intel platform where the chip may be cheaper, but may require a more expensive budget board to keep it chugging along properly. I feel AMD is well aware that demand may not be great, so I don’t think they will produce a lot of this 5800X3D chip. After all, it is just a stop gap solution.

 

[cryoburner]

For people buying a new system, the price and the limited lifespan of AM4 is likely going to put people off.

As far as the lifespan of AM4 motherboards goes, the same could be said about Intel's platform, where new motherboards tend to be required every-other generation. I think the Raptor Lake lineup will be able to run on the same motherboards as Alder Lake when it releases later this year, but next year's processors will likely require all new motherboards. So, the limited future upgrade path may be similar for both.

I do think people buying high-end chips might be more prone to wait and see what Zen4 and AM5 have to offer though. It does feel a bit like a stop-gap product, much Intel's 11th-gen processors. Though it's probable they'll keep AM4 and the 5000-series around for some time to support the more mid-range to lower-end market where DDR5 doesn't yet make as much sense, and they might even release other V-Cache models for AM4.

As for not being a product AMD intended to bring to market, I don't really think that's the case. Zen3's chiplets were designed from the start to support the technology, and existing processors already have the interconnects in place for it, so it's not like they just randomly decided to tack on a cache chip after the fact. It's possible that they may have adjusted their plans though, as they might have originally intended to release V-Cache chips earlier, or across a wider range.